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This app should have been banned from both appstores when it was found to be exfiltrating all clipboard data. Insane that it's still permitted by Apple and Goo

This app should have been banned from both appstores when it was found to be exfiltrating all clipboard data. Insane that it's still permitted by Apple and Google after such an obvious display of malevolence.

srcreigh 4y ago
What other explanation is there for this other than some type of china-USA (or global) conspiracy? I suppose it’s the threat of TikTok paving the way for non App Store deployments. Reducing power of the app stores. Or maybe it’s US companies believing they can use permission systems to tame the information flow to TikTok servers.
- coldtea 4y ago
  >What other explanation is there for this other than some type of china-USA (or global) conspiracy? Perhaps the fact that every other major social company has been found of doing the same (Facebook and Google multiple times) and yet nothing happened to their apps, at best they got a "slap on the wrist" at times... The focus on Tik-Tok is more about a shot in the US-China trade and geopolitical rivarly than because it's somehow unique
  - srcreigh 4y ago
    For me the geopolitics are a lot more adversarial than that. For ex can't use FB or Google in China why - its American espionage against Chinese citizens. The question is why America (via Apple/Google) are allowing TikTok to spy on American citizens.
coldtea 4y ago
The same Apple and Google (and Facebook) that have been caught doing similar shit time and again? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-privacy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-priva... https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/17/google_reportedly_ignoring_safari_users_privacy_settings_to_better_track_its_ads https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/17/google_reportedly... https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204880404577225380456599176 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204880404577225... https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/privacy-lawsuits-accuse-apple-of-ignoring-analytics-data-preference-settings-on-devices/ https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/privacy-lawsuits-ac... https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/?sh=fa1ce71358af https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/face... https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-lawsuit-ios-privacy/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-lawsuit-ios-privacy/ https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/09/facebook-users-sue-meta-for-attempting-to-bypass-apple-privacy-safeguards https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/09/facebook-user... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-google-privacy-lawsuit-idUSKBN23933H https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-google-privacy-l...
- lazyeye 4y ago
  Who cares? Does China allow Facebook, Twitter etc within its own borders? Why not? Is there anything unreasonable about treating China the same way it treats others?
  - coldtea 4y ago
    No, just the hypocrisy of "we're doing it out of privacy concerns"
    - lazyeye 4y ago
      Not at all. Privacy concerns obviously become much more critical when an aggressive foreign power is involved and is likely to weaponise the data. Particularly a country like China that operates the most sophisticated control/surveillance systems in the world on its own citizens.
cute_boi 4y ago
The only issue here is targeting Tiktok and other gaints like Facebook and Twitter are given free pass. I don't like baptist vs bootleggers strategy.
lazyeye 4y ago
Yes I wonder what could be motivating Tim Cook for example? https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-tim-cook-275-billion-china-deal-regulatory-crackdown-report-2021-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-tim-cook-275-billion-c...

srcreigh 4y ago

What other explanation is there for this other than some type of china-USA (or global) conspiracy? I suppose it’s the threat of TikTok paving the way for non App Store deployments. Reducing power of the app stores. Or maybe it’s US companies believing they can use permission systems to tame the information flow to TikTok servers.

coldtea 4y ago
>What other explanation is there for this other than some type of china-USA (or global) conspiracy? Perhaps the fact that every other major social company has been found of doing the same (Facebook and Google multiple times) and yet nothing happened to their apps, at best they got a "slap on the wrist" at times... The focus on Tik-Tok is more about a shot in the US-China trade and geopolitical rivarly than because it's somehow unique
- srcreigh 4y ago
  For me the geopolitics are a lot more adversarial than that. For ex can't use FB or Google in China why - its American espionage against Chinese citizens. The question is why America (via Apple/Google) are allowing TikTok to spy on American citizens.

coldtea 4y ago

The same Apple and Google (and Facebook) that have been caught doing similar shit time and again? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-privacy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-priva... https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/17/google_reportedly_ignoring_safari_users_privacy_settings_to_better_track_its_ads https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/17/google_reportedly... https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204880404577225380456599176 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204880404577225... https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/privacy-lawsuits-accuse-apple-of-ignoring-analytics-data-preference-settings-on-devices/ https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/privacy-lawsuits-ac... https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/?sh=fa1ce71358af https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/face... https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-lawsuit-ios-privacy/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-lawsuit-ios-privacy/ https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/09/facebook-users-sue-meta-for-attempting-to-bypass-apple-privacy-safeguards https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/09/facebook-user... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-google-privacy-lawsuit-idUSKBN23933H https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-google-privacy-l...

lazyeye 4y ago
Who cares? Does China allow Facebook, Twitter etc within its own borders? Why not? Is there anything unreasonable about treating China the same way it treats others?
- coldtea 4y ago
  No, just the hypocrisy of "we're doing it out of privacy concerns"
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    Not at all. Privacy concerns obviously become much more critical when an aggressive foreign power is involved and is likely to weaponise the data. Particularly a country like China that operates the most sophisticated control/surveillance systems in the world on its own citizens.

cute_boi 4y ago

The only issue here is targeting Tiktok and other gaints like Facebook and Twitter are given free pass. I don't like baptist vs bootleggers strategy.

lazyeye 4y ago

Yes I wonder what could be motivating Tim Cook for example? https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-tim-cook-275-billion-china-deal-regulatory-crackdown-report-2021-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-tim-cook-275-billion-c...