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Isn’t the article talking about live streaming like on Twitch? As opposed to game streaming over a system like Stadia

goosedragons 4y ago
I think it is. It still seems like a minority situation to me. How much of a player base is streamers that it makes sense to optimize games for Twitch? Wouldn't it make more sense for Twitch to optimize video codecs for games in mind instead?
- brucethemoose2 4y ago
  A small fraction of players, but its a critical fraction to market a game. Many games already have a "streamer mode" that disables licensed music among other things.
- Brybry 4y ago
  The viewership and exposure level is so great on Twitch/Youtube/Facebook/etc that games already have "streamer modes" that hide information to, for example, help prevent stream snipers (including big games like Call of Duty). Streaming is big. Making your game look good when streamed is probably worthwhile. Arguably some game genres and trends wouldn't even exist if not for streaming. Battle Royale games were based on a little known ARMA mod that was popularized by streamers like Lirik which lead to more people playing them which lead to more games like that being made.
brucethemoose2 4y ago
This is confusing me as well. I thought it was about game "streaming," but after reading the comments I'm thinking maybe its about "game streaming." But the problem is fundamentally the same, as they are both using GPU hardware encoders to stream a game to a client.
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nolok 4y ago
Then it doesn't need "optimize for streaming" it needs a straight to stream rather than render then re encode.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  The player still has to see the game and "watching your own stream" introduces significant (inconsistent) latency making it inappropriate for any game with timing.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  That seems like a pretty good idea generally. For a single-player game an extra straight-to-stream output could even show extra info; be third person, etc. Hell, why not include the ability to render locally, like a halo/StarCraft (and many other series of course, these are just the two I remember) replay.

I think it is. It still seems like a minority situation to me. How much of a player base is streamers that it makes sense to optimize games for Twitch? Wouldn't it make more sense for Twitch to optimize video codecs for games in mind instead?

brucethemoose2 4y ago
A small fraction of players, but its a critical fraction to market a game. Many games already have a "streamer mode" that disables licensed music among other things.
Brybry 4y ago
The viewership and exposure level is so great on Twitch/Youtube/Facebook/etc that games already have "streamer modes" that hide information to, for example, help prevent stream snipers (including big games like Call of Duty). Streaming is big. Making your game look good when streamed is probably worthwhile. Arguably some game genres and trends wouldn't even exist if not for streaming. Battle Royale games were based on a little known ARMA mod that was popularized by streamers like Lirik which lead to more people playing them which lead to more games like that being made.

brucethemoose2 4y ago

This is confusing me as well. I thought it was about game "streaming," but after reading the comments I'm thinking maybe its about "game streaming." But the problem is fundamentally the same, as they are both using GPU hardware encoders to stream a game to a client.

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nolok 4y ago

Then it doesn't need "optimize for streaming" it needs a straight to stream rather than render then re encode.

vorpalhex 4y ago
The player still has to see the game and "watching your own stream" introduces significant (inconsistent) latency making it inappropriate for any game with timing.
bee_rider 4y ago
That seems like a pretty good idea generally. For a single-player game an extra straight-to-stream output could even show extra info; be third person, etc. Hell, why not include the ability to render locally, like a halo/StarCraft (and many other series of course, these are just the two I remember) replay.