4 ms·

This is incorrect, the guy who got arrested is the Deputy Chief Minister of New Delhi, and belongs to a political party. He is no way an opposition leader. Cons

This is incorrect, the guy who got arrested is the Deputy Chief Minister of New Delhi, and belongs to a political party. He is no way an opposition leader. Considering this post has been made from a throwaway account, with a comment that has too much references, I assume the intent is not the greatest one here.

unmole 4y ago
This is a bizzare take. AAP is an opposition party at the centre. Sisodiya is a senior leader of AAP. It makes perfect sense to refer to him as an opposition leader.
- rishabhd 4y ago
  Equally bizarre is OPs submission history. To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Also, to get formally recognized, it should at least have 10% of house strength. AAP does not meets any of those criterion, hence it does not qualifies as an opposition party, and the guy who got arrested as an opposition leader.
  - throwaway384629 4y ago
    Please see my answer above in reply to your original comment.
    - rishabhd 4y ago
      First, he is not the "Indian opposition leader", he belongs to a regional party where in he is part of the opposing political party. India, currently does not have an opposition leader by definition. The same opposition leader and other leaders of the regional AAP party has been involved into a lot of misgivings as well, which are not pointed out in your references, some of them proven, some not. Political hitjobs by the ruling party? Maybe. Impeding investigation or attempt to gain mass public support by making last minute highly publicized visits or statements? Maybe. There is a strong bias in your previous posts and your submissions against the ruling party in India, which has been time and again questioned/ pointed out in your previous submissions. Not that there is anything wrong about it, but again HN may not be the place for political and potentially controversial discussions which can devolve into a flame war. edit : fixed verbiage.
      - throwaway384629 4y ago
        HN only allows limited number of characters in title, so "Indian opposition leader" is the only best word I could come up with. I have added more information in my top comment right after creating the post. My posts are about democracy in one of the largest countries of the world. I feel democracy is one of the top area of interest to fellow hackers. Lastly, AAP is not a regional party. In December 2022, after Gujarat Legislative election, Aam Aadmi Party has fulfilled the criteria for being the 9th national party of India. It is in the middle of the process of getting the official recognition as the National Party by Election commission of India.[1][2] [1] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/aap-becomes-indias-9th-national-party/cid/1902788 https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/aap-becomes-indias-9th-... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_India#National_parties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_I...
  - unmole 4y ago
    > To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Every party that isn't in government is by definition an opposition party. You're mixing up the criteria for recognition of the LoP of a house with what an opposition party is.
- sound1 4y ago
  Nit pick. Don't confuse between 'leader of one of the opposition parties' and 'Leader of Opposition[1]' which is an official title. Sisodia is not part of Parliament of India (let alone LoP) so the official title doesn't apply to him. He was/is(?) the excise minister of Delhi state when the 'supposed-liquor-scam' took place, hence the arrest. No idea if the allegations are legit; there are 28 states in India and one of 28 Excise minster is arrested. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(India) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(In...
  - throwaway384629 4y ago
    Absolutely. Indeed, Manish Sisodia is a 'leader of one of the opposition parties'. But HN does not allow too many characters in the post title hence I tried to add more information in a comment under my post. :)
    - sound1 4y ago
      [flagged]
    - sound1 4y ago
      Then correct the title. He is not an opposition leader, he is the sitting Excise minister in the Delhi State Government.
      - throwaway384629 4y ago
        HN has title length limit so it does not allow adding 'leader of one of the opposition parties' to the title. Also, Manish Sisodia is Deputy Chief Minister of Delhi, part of AAP, which is a national party of India so I don't think its wrong to use "an opposition leader" for him.
        sound1 4y ago
        He is not the leader of opposition in any sense of the word. How about changing the title to "Delhi Excise miniter arrested for Liquor scam"?
throwaway384629 4y ago
I clearly mentioned this in my existing comment. But let me share more details here: * Manish Sisodia is the member of Aam Aadmi Party which is currently ruling New Delhi (Capital of India) * Modi's BJP party is ruling party at the centre * Aam Aadmi Party has defeated BJP twice in New Delhi state election * The Delhi Police/CBI is under control of Modi/BJP government * CBI has made the arrest so I see it as CBI arresting a leader from a party that is opposition to BJP centre government Responding to your other concerns: I don't know what's wrong in making a political post by using a throwaway account & backing your claims with references.

unmole 4y ago

This is a bizzare take. AAP is an opposition party at the centre. Sisodiya is a senior leader of AAP. It makes perfect sense to refer to him as an opposition leader.

rishabhd 4y ago
Equally bizarre is OPs submission history. To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Also, to get formally recognized, it should at least have 10% of house strength. AAP does not meets any of those criterion, hence it does not qualifies as an opposition party, and the guy who got arrested as an opposition leader.
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  Please see my answer above in reply to your original comment.
  - rishabhd 4y ago
    First, he is not the "Indian opposition leader", he belongs to a regional party where in he is part of the opposing political party. India, currently does not have an opposition leader by definition. The same opposition leader and other leaders of the regional AAP party has been involved into a lot of misgivings as well, which are not pointed out in your references, some of them proven, some not. Political hitjobs by the ruling party? Maybe. Impeding investigation or attempt to gain mass public support by making last minute highly publicized visits or statements? Maybe. There is a strong bias in your previous posts and your submissions against the ruling party in India, which has been time and again questioned/ pointed out in your previous submissions. Not that there is anything wrong about it, but again HN may not be the place for political and potentially controversial discussions which can devolve into a flame war. edit : fixed verbiage.
    - throwaway384629 4y ago
      HN only allows limited number of characters in title, so "Indian opposition leader" is the only best word I could come up with. I have added more information in my top comment right after creating the post. My posts are about democracy in one of the largest countries of the world. I feel democracy is one of the top area of interest to fellow hackers. Lastly, AAP is not a regional party. In December 2022, after Gujarat Legislative election, Aam Aadmi Party has fulfilled the criteria for being the 9th national party of India. It is in the middle of the process of getting the official recognition as the National Party by Election commission of India.[1][2] [1] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/aap-becomes-indias-9th-national-party/cid/1902788 https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/aap-becomes-indias-9th-... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_India#National_parties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_I...
- unmole 4y ago
  > To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Every party that isn't in government is by definition an opposition party. You're mixing up the criteria for recognition of the LoP of a house with what an opposition party is.
sound1 4y ago
Nit pick. Don't confuse between 'leader of one of the opposition parties' and 'Leader of Opposition[1]' which is an official title. Sisodia is not part of Parliament of India (let alone LoP) so the official title doesn't apply to him. He was/is(?) the excise minister of Delhi state when the 'supposed-liquor-scam' took place, hence the arrest. No idea if the allegations are legit; there are 28 states in India and one of 28 Excise minster is arrested. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(India) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(In...
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  Absolutely. Indeed, Manish Sisodia is a 'leader of one of the opposition parties'. But HN does not allow too many characters in the post title hence I tried to add more information in a comment under my post. :)
  - sound1 4y ago
    [flagged]
  - sound1 4y ago
    Then correct the title. He is not an opposition leader, he is the sitting Excise minister in the Delhi State Government.
    - throwaway384629 4y ago
      HN has title length limit so it does not allow adding 'leader of one of the opposition parties' to the title. Also, Manish Sisodia is Deputy Chief Minister of Delhi, part of AAP, which is a national party of India so I don't think its wrong to use "an opposition leader" for him.
      - sound1 4y ago
        He is not the leader of opposition in any sense of the word. How about changing the title to "Delhi Excise miniter arrested for Liquor scam"?

throwaway384629 4y ago

I clearly mentioned this in my existing comment. But let me share more details here: * Manish Sisodia is the member of Aam Aadmi Party which is currently ruling New Delhi (Capital of India) * Modi's BJP party is ruling party at the centre * Aam Aadmi Party has defeated BJP twice in New Delhi state election * The Delhi Police/CBI is under control of Modi/BJP government * CBI has made the arrest so I see it as CBI arresting a leader from a party that is opposition to BJP centre government Responding to your other concerns: I don't know what's wrong in making a political post by using a throwaway account & backing your claims with references.