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Indian opposition leader arrested, few under house arrest in Delhi, India

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throwaway384629 4y ago
The person that got arrested is New Delhi’s Deputy Chief Minister and Education Minister, Manish Sisodia. He belongs to Arvind Kejriwal led "Aam Aadmi Party". Manish Sisodia is the man behind Education Revolution in the capital of India. He transformed the public schools in New Delhi with an aim to provide quality education to children from less privileged families. His work has seen praise all of the world and his policies has been a part of various studies. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [1] https://www.educationnext.org/inside-the-delhi-education-revolution/ https://www.educationnext.org/inside-the-delhi-education-rev... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/16/world/asia/india-delhi-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/16/world/asia/india-delhi-sc... [3] https://www.brookings.edu/research/state-led-education-reform-in-delhi-india/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/state-led-education-refor... [4] https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/58944 https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/58944 [5] https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-education-system-report-based-on-impartial-on-the-ground-reporting-new-york-times-external-communications-director-nicole-tylor/article65788624.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-education-s...
- sound1 4y ago
  He was not arrested for his work as education minister or as a deputy chief minister. He also holds an Excise portfolio and the central government thinks there were irregularities there and that is why he was arrested. That is why he was arrested. CBI justified its actions on why he was arrested [1] [1] https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sisodia-arrested-by-cbi-after-day-of-questioning-101677435850442.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sisodia-arrested-b...
  - throwaway384629 4y ago
    "central government thinks" is the keyword here. That is the whole point of my post.
    - sound1 4y ago
      Delhi state is a union territory. The central government normally controls them and Delhi is not much different just because they have a legislative assembly (in this case AAP government). Cetral government can (in this case did) scrutinize what their ministers in the union territories were actually doing. Let the minister come out clean in the court.
      - throwaway384629 4y ago
        Process is the punishment in India. They can arrest you based on allegations, keep you in jail for months without even filing a charge sheet and no one is liable when a court finally acquits you after months or years of jail time. In any functioning democracy, government should not be able to arrest members of their opposition parties or journalists just based on allegations. If an alleged scam of 100 Crore rupees is really a reason of arrest then why Adani is not arrested yet with an alleged scam and money laundering of thousands of crore rupees? 140 Cases Filed Against different AAP MLAs and Members, 72 Disposed of, Just 1 Conviction So Far [1] Another example where they arrested a journalist. The journalist stayed in jail for 28 months before a court granted him bail. [2] [1] https://www.news18.com/news/india/140-cases-filed-against-aap-mlas-and-members-but-conviction-in-just-one-so-far-2057583.html https://www.news18.com/news/india/140-cases-filed-against-aa... [2] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/846-days-timeline-of-siddique-kappans-case-as-he-walks-out-of-jail-2329454-2023-02-02 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/846-days-timeline-of-s...
        sound1 4y ago
        > Process is the punishment in India. They can arrest you based on allegations, keep you in jail for months without even filing a charge sheet and no one is liable when a court finally acquits you after months or years of jail time. Not different than many different than many other democracies, lots of suspects held in custody without conviction: https://www.americasquarterly.org/fulltextarticle/prisons-in-jail-but-not-sentenced/ https://www.americasquarterly.org/fulltextarticle/prisons-in... > In any functioning democracy, government should not be able to arrest members of their opposition parties or journalists just based on allegations. What is your yardstick for a functioning democracy? > If an alleged scam of 100 Crore rupees is really a reason of arrest then why Adani is not arrested yet with an alleged scam and money laundering of thousands of crore rupees? Who says there was such a scam? The Hindenburg group did say, but they are a short seller who allegedly benefited from falling prices of Adani's stocks. And their word is not a valid authority in Indian law to book a case against anyone.
rishabhd 4y ago
This is incorrect, the guy who got arrested is the Deputy Chief Minister of New Delhi, and belongs to a political party. He is no way an opposition leader. Considering this post has been made from a throwaway account, with a comment that has too much references, I assume the intent is not the greatest one here.
- unmole 4y ago
  This is a bizzare take. AAP is an opposition party at the centre. Sisodiya is a senior leader of AAP. It makes perfect sense to refer to him as an opposition leader.
  - rishabhd 4y ago
    Equally bizarre is OPs submission history. To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Also, to get formally recognized, it should at least have 10% of house strength. AAP does not meets any of those criterion, hence it does not qualifies as an opposition party, and the guy who got arrested as an opposition leader.
    - throwaway384629 4y ago
      Please see my answer above in reply to your original comment.
      - rishabhd 4y ago
        First, he is not the "Indian opposition leader", he belongs to a regional party where in he is part of the opposing political party. India, currently does not have an opposition leader by definition. The same opposition leader and other leaders of the regional AAP party has been involved into a lot of misgivings as well, which are not pointed out in your references, some of them proven, some not. Political hitjobs by the ruling party? Maybe. Impeding investigation or attempt to gain mass public support by making last minute highly publicized visits or statements? Maybe. There is a strong bias in your previous posts and your submissions against the ruling party in India, which has been time and again questioned/ pointed out in your previous submissions. Not that there is anything wrong about it, but again HN may not be the place for political and potentially controversial discussions which can devolve into a flame war. edit : fixed verbiage.
0xDEF 4y ago
India is completely balkanizing right now and the rest of the world is ignoring it. The central government is becoming increasingly authoritarian and arresting opposition politicians. In Punjab the Sikh separatists are beginning to make moves. In South India there is also increasing separatist sentiments with many feeling the central government is forcing them to learn Hindi. The same is happening in West Bengal.
- ta_vf7xjd34cc 4y ago
  > India is completely balkanizing right now The 1980s and 1990s saw the assassinations of the sitting Prime Minister of India, the sitting Chief Minister of Punjab, the just-retired Army Chief and the former Prime Minister with simultaneous deadly insurgencies in multiple states with a death toll exceeding 100,000. If the country didn't split up then, there is virtually no chance of that happening today. > The central government is becoming increasingly authoritarian and arresting opposition politicians. Nothing out of the ordinary for central and state governments in India. The current Home Minister was arrested, and the current Prime Minister was subjected to a grueling investigation, by the previous government. State governments routinely arrest local opposition politicians and journalists for various reasons. > In South India there is also increasing separatist sentiments with many feeling the central government is forcing them to learn Hindi. The nativist movement in Tamil Nadu has nothing to do with Hindi. And it is no where as strong as it was 50 years back.
- frontman1988 4y ago
  Even in Ladakh protests are happening which are getting completely ignored by mainstream media. India with it's crazy diversity might be better off having a structure similar to the EU rather than one country with a strong central power. Modern day India is quite an unnatural union. Like if all of Africa was one country it would have been such a mess. India is like that just more crowded in less land.
  - MPlus88 4y ago
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mandeepj 4y ago
Related: Another opposition leader arrested as well. The reason is laughable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/23/pawan-khera-arrested-india-modi/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/23/pawan-khera-...
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  And here is a case filed against an AAP MLA because a poster with his photo was pasted on a school gate and on an electricity pole. https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/delhi-court-acquits-aap-mla-in-two-cases-of-defacement-of-public-property/cid/1886208 https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/delhi-court-acquits-aap...
- sound1 4y ago
  Why is that so surprising? Pavan Khera broke the law of the land (by making unacceptable comments). He is a spokesperson of the National party (main opposition) and he should know better. Just because you think something is laughable from where you are sitting is not so laughable anywhere else (ask Pavan). Look what happened to Carlos Ghosn
  - throwaway384629 4y ago
    Is PM above everyone in a democracy or is Modi a king? So you use a bad name for PM, and PM will send paramilitary forces to arrest you? Who has used these words on record for opposition leaders: 'Jersey Cow', 'Congress ki Vidhwa', 'Maunmohan', '50 Crore girlfriend'?
    - sound1 4y ago
      > Is PM above everyone in a democracy or is Modi a king? So you use a bad name for PM, and PM will send paramilitary forces to arrest you? Nobody is a king including the pm. it is about the land of the law. > Who has used these words on record for opposition leaders: 'Jersey Cow', 'Congress ki Vidhwa', 'Maunmohan', '50 Crore girlfriend'? did someone file a case? can you share a reference if there is one?
perfecthjrjth 4y ago
hahaha, in India, no one can become a politician without getting arrested. In fact, Indian police makes money by 'false' arrests in resolving civil disputes.
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  Thats very true, but this case is even next level. This arrest is made by Central Bureau of Investigation" (CBI).
  - perfecthjrjth 4y ago
    Go to Andhra Pradesh, cronies of politicians are filing private cases against CBI officers with the aid of the AP police. This is with respect to the investigation of the murder of YS Vivekananda Reddy, brother of ex-CM YSR, and an uncle of the current CM of AP. It tells us how weak is CBI is. Every one knows that the current CM of AP is involved in killing his uncle.

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The person that got arrested is New Delhi’s Deputy Chief Minister and Education Minister, Manish Sisodia. He belongs to Arvind Kejriwal led "Aam Aadmi Party". Manish Sisodia is the man behind Education Revolution in the capital of India. He transformed the public schools in New Delhi with an aim to provide quality education to children from less privileged families. His work has seen praise all of the world and his policies has been a part of various studies. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [1] https://www.educationnext.org/inside-the-delhi-education-revolution/ https://www.educationnext.org/inside-the-delhi-education-rev... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/16/world/asia/india-delhi-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/16/world/asia/india-delhi-sc... [3] https://www.brookings.edu/research/state-led-education-reform-in-delhi-india/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/state-led-education-refor... [4] https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/58944 https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/58944 [5] https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-education-system-report-based-on-impartial-on-the-ground-reporting-new-york-times-external-communications-director-nicole-tylor/article65788624.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-education-s...

sound1 4y ago
He was not arrested for his work as education minister or as a deputy chief minister. He also holds an Excise portfolio and the central government thinks there were irregularities there and that is why he was arrested. That is why he was arrested. CBI justified its actions on why he was arrested [1] [1] https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sisodia-arrested-by-cbi-after-day-of-questioning-101677435850442.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sisodia-arrested-b...
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  "central government thinks" is the keyword here. That is the whole point of my post.
  - sound1 4y ago
    Delhi state is a union territory. The central government normally controls them and Delhi is not much different just because they have a legislative assembly (in this case AAP government). Cetral government can (in this case did) scrutinize what their ministers in the union territories were actually doing. Let the minister come out clean in the court.
    - throwaway384629 4y ago
      Process is the punishment in India. They can arrest you based on allegations, keep you in jail for months without even filing a charge sheet and no one is liable when a court finally acquits you after months or years of jail time. In any functioning democracy, government should not be able to arrest members of their opposition parties or journalists just based on allegations. If an alleged scam of 100 Crore rupees is really a reason of arrest then why Adani is not arrested yet with an alleged scam and money laundering of thousands of crore rupees? 140 Cases Filed Against different AAP MLAs and Members, 72 Disposed of, Just 1 Conviction So Far [1] Another example where they arrested a journalist. The journalist stayed in jail for 28 months before a court granted him bail. [2] [1] https://www.news18.com/news/india/140-cases-filed-against-aap-mlas-and-members-but-conviction-in-just-one-so-far-2057583.html https://www.news18.com/news/india/140-cases-filed-against-aa... [2] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/846-days-timeline-of-siddique-kappans-case-as-he-walks-out-of-jail-2329454-2023-02-02 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/846-days-timeline-of-s...
      - sound1 4y ago
        > Process is the punishment in India. They can arrest you based on allegations, keep you in jail for months without even filing a charge sheet and no one is liable when a court finally acquits you after months or years of jail time. Not different than many different than many other democracies, lots of suspects held in custody without conviction: https://www.americasquarterly.org/fulltextarticle/prisons-in-jail-but-not-sentenced/ https://www.americasquarterly.org/fulltextarticle/prisons-in... > In any functioning democracy, government should not be able to arrest members of their opposition parties or journalists just based on allegations. What is your yardstick for a functioning democracy? > If an alleged scam of 100 Crore rupees is really a reason of arrest then why Adani is not arrested yet with an alleged scam and money laundering of thousands of crore rupees? Who says there was such a scam? The Hindenburg group did say, but they are a short seller who allegedly benefited from falling prices of Adani's stocks. And their word is not a valid authority in Indian law to book a case against anyone.

rishabhd 4y ago

This is incorrect, the guy who got arrested is the Deputy Chief Minister of New Delhi, and belongs to a political party. He is no way an opposition leader. Considering this post has been made from a throwaway account, with a comment that has too much references, I assume the intent is not the greatest one here.

unmole 4y ago
This is a bizzare take. AAP is an opposition party at the centre. Sisodiya is a senior leader of AAP. It makes perfect sense to refer to him as an opposition leader.
- rishabhd 4y ago
  Equally bizarre is OPs submission history. To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Also, to get formally recognized, it should at least have 10% of house strength. AAP does not meets any of those criterion, hence it does not qualifies as an opposition party, and the guy who got arrested as an opposition leader.
  - throwaway384629 4y ago
    Please see my answer above in reply to your original comment.
    - rishabhd 4y ago
      First, he is not the "Indian opposition leader", he belongs to a regional party where in he is part of the opposing political party. India, currently does not have an opposition leader by definition. The same opposition leader and other leaders of the regional AAP party has been involved into a lot of misgivings as well, which are not pointed out in your references, some of them proven, some not. Political hitjobs by the ruling party? Maybe. Impeding investigation or attempt to gain mass public support by making last minute highly publicized visits or statements? Maybe. There is a strong bias in your previous posts and your submissions against the ruling party in India, which has been time and again questioned/ pointed out in your previous submissions. Not that there is anything wrong about it, but again HN may not be the place for political and potentially controversial discussions which can devolve into a flame war. edit : fixed verbiage.

0xDEF 4y ago

India is completely balkanizing right now and the rest of the world is ignoring it. The central government is becoming increasingly authoritarian and arresting opposition politicians. In Punjab the Sikh separatists are beginning to make moves. In South India there is also increasing separatist sentiments with many feeling the central government is forcing them to learn Hindi. The same is happening in West Bengal.

ta_vf7xjd34cc 4y ago
> India is completely balkanizing right now The 1980s and 1990s saw the assassinations of the sitting Prime Minister of India, the sitting Chief Minister of Punjab, the just-retired Army Chief and the former Prime Minister with simultaneous deadly insurgencies in multiple states with a death toll exceeding 100,000. If the country didn't split up then, there is virtually no chance of that happening today. > The central government is becoming increasingly authoritarian and arresting opposition politicians. Nothing out of the ordinary for central and state governments in India. The current Home Minister was arrested, and the current Prime Minister was subjected to a grueling investigation, by the previous government. State governments routinely arrest local opposition politicians and journalists for various reasons. > In South India there is also increasing separatist sentiments with many feeling the central government is forcing them to learn Hindi. The nativist movement in Tamil Nadu has nothing to do with Hindi. And it is no where as strong as it was 50 years back.
frontman1988 4y ago
Even in Ladakh protests are happening which are getting completely ignored by mainstream media. India with it's crazy diversity might be better off having a structure similar to the EU rather than one country with a strong central power. Modern day India is quite an unnatural union. Like if all of Africa was one country it would have been such a mess. India is like that just more crowded in less land.
- MPlus88 4y ago
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mandeepj 4y ago

Related: Another opposition leader arrested as well. The reason is laughable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/23/pawan-khera-arrested-india-modi/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/23/pawan-khera-...

throwaway384629 4y ago
And here is a case filed against an AAP MLA because a poster with his photo was pasted on a school gate and on an electricity pole. https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/delhi-court-acquits-aap-mla-in-two-cases-of-defacement-of-public-property/cid/1886208 https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/delhi-court-acquits-aap...
sound1 4y ago
Why is that so surprising? Pavan Khera broke the law of the land (by making unacceptable comments). He is a spokesperson of the National party (main opposition) and he should know better. Just because you think something is laughable from where you are sitting is not so laughable anywhere else (ask Pavan). Look what happened to Carlos Ghosn
- throwaway384629 4y ago
  Is PM above everyone in a democracy or is Modi a king? So you use a bad name for PM, and PM will send paramilitary forces to arrest you? Who has used these words on record for opposition leaders: 'Jersey Cow', 'Congress ki Vidhwa', 'Maunmohan', '50 Crore girlfriend'?
  - sound1 4y ago
    > Is PM above everyone in a democracy or is Modi a king? So you use a bad name for PM, and PM will send paramilitary forces to arrest you? Nobody is a king including the pm. it is about the land of the law. > Who has used these words on record for opposition leaders: 'Jersey Cow', 'Congress ki Vidhwa', 'Maunmohan', '50 Crore girlfriend'? did someone file a case? can you share a reference if there is one?

perfecthjrjth 4y ago

hahaha, in India, no one can become a politician without getting arrested. In fact, Indian police makes money by 'false' arrests in resolving civil disputes.

throwaway384629 4y ago
Thats very true, but this case is even next level. This arrest is made by Central Bureau of Investigation" (CBI).
- perfecthjrjth 4y ago
  Go to Andhra Pradesh, cronies of politicians are filing private cases against CBI officers with the aid of the AP police. This is with respect to the investigation of the murder of YS Vivekananda Reddy, brother of ex-CM YSR, and an uncle of the current CM of AP. It tells us how weak is CBI is. Every one knows that the current CM of AP is involved in killing his uncle.