> > For all intents and purposes this is happening in real time from our local frame of reference. > But you have not shown this to be false. Once again you h

> > For all intents and purposes this is happening in real time from our local frame of reference. > But you have not shown this to be false. Once again you have ignored how General Relativity defines "local frame of reference" – which I have elaborated on extensively –, replaced it with your very own and, as discussed, inconsistent definition, and assert that I am wrong based on this made up definition of yours. Take gravitational lensing. Light from one event will reach you in multiple (in fact, an infinite number of) ways, at different times. What now? How do you define the time at which an event occured? Take the fact light often propagates at speeds v < c, where c is "the" speed of light, an effect that all light rays you see in the sky are subject to to some degree because they are passing through interstellar medium et cetera. (For an extreme example see slow light[0].) How do you reconcile your definition with the fact that the speed of (such) light will no longer be the speed that bounds whether two events are causally connected? [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_light