You literally kicked off this thread with the statement > It more and more seems like "traditional", conservative societies are more successful on aggregate.

You literally kicked off this thread with the statement > It more and more seems like "traditional", conservative societies are more successful on aggregate. Which is a much broader claim than just stating that traditional values increase fertility rate. After being pressed to provide examples by multiple commenters, and failing to produce even one, you can't just sarcastically pretend that we were talking only about fertility rate all along.