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I've experienced more divisive content from western media itself than overt anti-west stuff from RT or yandex lmao.

thiscatis 4y ago
Feel free to move to Russia if you don’t live there already and you’ll no longer have to worry about being exposed to western media!
- foverzar 4y ago
  Oh please, unless you are a complete luddite, you'll get constantly bombarded by it.
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- klwrth 4y ago
  I thought that moving to another country is a multi-variable problem, but apparently it can be reduced to a single variable problem.
- jurimasa 4y ago
  Calm down, captain America. Chill. It's just an opinion and it was not rude.
- scared333 4y ago
  This is underrated comment. And by looking at the knee-jerk reactions from accounts with 0-10 karma, might just be right on the money. For me, having moved from the US to eastern Europe has been eye opening in this regard. Based on somewhat shallow sampling of parents of our kids classmates in $$$ IB school, everyone but one seem to be vocal about the fact that everything in the west is from the 'ass'. I admit that it has crossed my mind more than once that if you really feel so strongly this way, or are upset that people don't want to speak russian with you, then why are you still here and not on your way back already?
- lockhouse 4y ago
  The parent of your comment brings up a valid point though. The Western media pushing divisive narratives is a major problem, that is already starting to tear apart the social fabric of Western society. I don't know what the solution is, but it sure isn't "herr durr, move to Russia!" You understand that a cartel of traditional and social media companies worked with the FBI and intelligence agencies to push a false narrative (the fake Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign) and to suppress a major story about corruption by a Presidential candidate (Hunter Biden's laptop), both of which are straight up election interference. Even if you're a Democrat or a never-Trumper this should outrage you.
  - osterbit2 4y ago
    I just want to point out that some of the statements in your comment seem to be presented as facts when they are actually heavily disputed. > "a cartel of traditional and social media companies worked with the FBI and intelligence agencies to push a false narrative (the fake Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign)" - while there are differing opinions on the veracity of this claim, it's important to consider the potential implications if it were true. If it were true, it would suggest that the President was compromised and had a conflict of interest between his personal vs the national interest, which is a serious concern. - Additionally, there are many other instances where the President's conflicts of interest have been on display, such as his actions in Helsinki and his use of the presidency to enrich himself and his associates. > "and to suppress a major story about corruption by a Presidential candidate (Hunter Biden's laptop)" - It's worth noting that this claim was heavily promoted by the Trump campaign and lacked substantial evidence. - And even if the worst version of these claims were true, they would be minor in comparison to other serious allegations against the former President, such as the Zelensky quid pro quo and the use of taxpayer dollars to benefit his businesses. -- (I'd also add to the broader discussion that) - While it's true that Western media has made mistakes and increased the spread of divisive content, the narratives about China and Russia are often rooted in solid ideological (or at least mostly self-consistent) principles, such as anti-authoritarianism and free speech. - The real issue with our media, in my opinion, is its role in amplifying domestic right vs. left divisiveness, which weakens the United States in the world, and is tearing our society apart.
- smsm42 4y ago
  Russia has a long standing tradition of expelling dissenters from the country (if murdering them proves inconvenient for some reason). I guess some in the West want to culturally appropriate this tradition. I'd prefer restoring freedom of speech, tbh.
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randomname93857 4y ago
> I've experienced more divisive content from western media itself than overt anti-west stuff from RT or yandex lmao. there is enough of media in the west that is in partially/wholly owned or heavily sponsored by rus and that transmit their propaganda or divisive narratives. All under disguise of free speech. And then someone may even blame that it's western media itself with their freedom of speech. how convenient.

Feel free to move to Russia if you don’t live there already and you’ll no longer have to worry about being exposed to western media!

foverzar 4y ago
Oh please, unless you are a complete luddite, you'll get constantly bombarded by it.
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klwrth 4y ago
I thought that moving to another country is a multi-variable problem, but apparently it can be reduced to a single variable problem.
jurimasa 4y ago
Calm down, captain America. Chill. It's just an opinion and it was not rude.
scared333 4y ago
This is underrated comment. And by looking at the knee-jerk reactions from accounts with 0-10 karma, might just be right on the money. For me, having moved from the US to eastern Europe has been eye opening in this regard. Based on somewhat shallow sampling of parents of our kids classmates in $$$ IB school, everyone but one seem to be vocal about the fact that everything in the west is from the 'ass'. I admit that it has crossed my mind more than once that if you really feel so strongly this way, or are upset that people don't want to speak russian with you, then why are you still here and not on your way back already?
lockhouse 4y ago
The parent of your comment brings up a valid point though. The Western media pushing divisive narratives is a major problem, that is already starting to tear apart the social fabric of Western society. I don't know what the solution is, but it sure isn't "herr durr, move to Russia!" You understand that a cartel of traditional and social media companies worked with the FBI and intelligence agencies to push a false narrative (the fake Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign) and to suppress a major story about corruption by a Presidential candidate (Hunter Biden's laptop), both of which are straight up election interference. Even if you're a Democrat or a never-Trumper this should outrage you.
- osterbit2 4y ago
  I just want to point out that some of the statements in your comment seem to be presented as facts when they are actually heavily disputed. > "a cartel of traditional and social media companies worked with the FBI and intelligence agencies to push a false narrative (the fake Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign)" - while there are differing opinions on the veracity of this claim, it's important to consider the potential implications if it were true. If it were true, it would suggest that the President was compromised and had a conflict of interest between his personal vs the national interest, which is a serious concern. - Additionally, there are many other instances where the President's conflicts of interest have been on display, such as his actions in Helsinki and his use of the presidency to enrich himself and his associates. > "and to suppress a major story about corruption by a Presidential candidate (Hunter Biden's laptop)" - It's worth noting that this claim was heavily promoted by the Trump campaign and lacked substantial evidence. - And even if the worst version of these claims were true, they would be minor in comparison to other serious allegations against the former President, such as the Zelensky quid pro quo and the use of taxpayer dollars to benefit his businesses. -- (I'd also add to the broader discussion that) - While it's true that Western media has made mistakes and increased the spread of divisive content, the narratives about China and Russia are often rooted in solid ideological (or at least mostly self-consistent) principles, such as anti-authoritarianism and free speech. - The real issue with our media, in my opinion, is its role in amplifying domestic right vs. left divisiveness, which weakens the United States in the world, and is tearing our society apart.
smsm42 4y ago
Russia has a long standing tradition of expelling dissenters from the country (if murdering them proves inconvenient for some reason). I guess some in the West want to culturally appropriate this tradition. I'd prefer restoring freedom of speech, tbh.

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randomname93857 4y ago

> I've experienced more divisive content from western media itself than overt anti-west stuff from RT or yandex lmao. there is enough of media in the west that is in partially/wholly owned or heavily sponsored by rus and that transmit their propaganda or divisive narratives. All under disguise of free speech. And then someone may even blame that it's western media itself with their freedom of speech. how convenient.