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Incredibly damning of Microsoft if they were making deals after 2014 to help the Russian aggression against Ukraine. That they would still be participating in

by mabbo 4y ago

Incredibly damning of Microsoft if they were making deals after 2014 to help the Russian aggression against Ukraine. That they would still be participating in this deal is even worse.

perfect_kiss 4y ago
Ukraine banned yandex in 2017 for mass data harvesting of Ukrainians, probably that's the main reason why gp did not find it in Ukrainian Bing. It's still possible and perfectly legal to access yandex or other data harvesting engines/disinfo websites over VPN or Tor, so the ban main objective is to protect non-tech-savvy users from the interference of hostile foreign criminals.
- somethingreen 4y ago
  Not sure why the downvotes, as, yes, Yandex along with several other russian internet service companies is blocked in Ukraine and it is almost certainly why it is not being set as default, because doing so would straight up break search altogether.
woooooo 4y ago
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somenameforme 4y ago
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- watwut 4y ago
  Russia exporting their military into other countries territory does not count as independence.
  - somenameforme 4y ago
    And you begging the question. When Ukraine's government was overthrown in 2014, numerous regions declared their independence. It's so absurdly illogical to try to claim that they can't do this, yet "we" (in that the 2014 insurrection was overtly backed by the US) have every right to overthrow their government. Imagine if the January 6th riots somehow actually did end up driving e.g. Biden out of office. Would states that were aligned with Biden (and opposed to Trump) not thusly have the right to refuse to acknowledge the new government and declare their independence? It seems like a heck of a good reason to me!
    - watwut 4y ago
      That is very manipulative framing and essentially a lie. That Russia did not managed in 2014 to threaten Ukraine away from western direction is what happened. Russia treated Ujrainian president not to sigh EU membership, Ukrainians revolted. Not an USA coup. And prites against specific rejection of democracy bt president. Ukraine did not became Belarus in 2014 due to protests which were against Russian meddling. USA proteats were trying to impose autocracy.
      - somenameforme 4y ago
        This [1] is a video of John McCain in the capitol of Ukraine in 2013, shortly before the occasionally violent protests turned into an outright insurrection. He was saying, with minimal sugar coating, "revolt and we'll have your back." Victoria Nuland, currently part of Biden's cabinet, was also there actively agitating protesters. Imagine this in a parallel world in the US. Where the US is a relatively weak, impoverished, and deeply corrupt nation. And the speaker was from ostensibly the most powerful nation in the world. You'd have brought out every anti-government individual in the country, all with that twinkle of violence in their eyes. Which is exactly what happened. I don't really think we would have taken these steps if we felt that the protests would have played out as desired without our meddling, because it ruins even the perception of independence. It was just another in the endless line of long US driven coups. That's not to say the Ukrainian people (particularly of Western Ukraine) were happy. But there's a dramatic difference between dissatisfaction, even to the point of occasionally violent protest, and an actual successful insurrection. I have an immense amount of empathy, and compassion, for the people of Ukraine. But I don't think we're making their lives, or even the lives of their children to come, any better. To say the least. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg
IYasha 4y ago
what aggression?
- prometheon1 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Ru...

by mabbo 4y ago

Incredibly damning of Microsoft if they were making deals after 2014 to help the Russian aggression against Ukraine. That they would still be participating in this deal is even worse.

perfect_kiss 4y ago

Ukraine banned yandex in 2017 for mass data harvesting of Ukrainians, probably that's the main reason why gp did not find it in Ukrainian Bing. It's still possible and perfectly legal to access yandex or other data harvesting engines/disinfo websites over VPN or Tor, so the ban main objective is to protect non-tech-savvy users from the interference of hostile foreign criminals.

somethingreen 4y ago
Not sure why the downvotes, as, yes, Yandex along with several other russian internet service companies is blocked in Ukraine and it is almost certainly why it is not being set as default, because doing so would straight up break search altogether.

woooooo 4y ago

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somenameforme 4y ago

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watwut 4y ago
Russia exporting their military into other countries territory does not count as independence.
- somenameforme 4y ago
  And you begging the question. When Ukraine's government was overthrown in 2014, numerous regions declared their independence. It's so absurdly illogical to try to claim that they can't do this, yet "we" (in that the 2014 insurrection was overtly backed by the US) have every right to overthrow their government. Imagine if the January 6th riots somehow actually did end up driving e.g. Biden out of office. Would states that were aligned with Biden (and opposed to Trump) not thusly have the right to refuse to acknowledge the new government and declare their independence? It seems like a heck of a good reason to me!
  - watwut 4y ago
    That is very manipulative framing and essentially a lie. That Russia did not managed in 2014 to threaten Ukraine away from western direction is what happened. Russia treated Ujrainian president not to sigh EU membership, Ukrainians revolted. Not an USA coup. And prites against specific rejection of democracy bt president. Ukraine did not became Belarus in 2014 due to protests which were against Russian meddling. USA proteats were trying to impose autocracy.
    - somenameforme 4y ago
      This [1] is a video of John McCain in the capitol of Ukraine in 2013, shortly before the occasionally violent protests turned into an outright insurrection. He was saying, with minimal sugar coating, "revolt and we'll have your back." Victoria Nuland, currently part of Biden's cabinet, was also there actively agitating protesters. Imagine this in a parallel world in the US. Where the US is a relatively weak, impoverished, and deeply corrupt nation. And the speaker was from ostensibly the most powerful nation in the world. You'd have brought out every anti-government individual in the country, all with that twinkle of violence in their eyes. Which is exactly what happened. I don't really think we would have taken these steps if we felt that the protests would have played out as desired without our meddling, because it ruins even the perception of independence. It was just another in the endless line of long US driven coups. That's not to say the Ukrainian people (particularly of Western Ukraine) were happy. But there's a dramatic difference between dissatisfaction, even to the point of occasionally violent protest, and an actual successful insurrection. I have an immense amount of empathy, and compassion, for the people of Ukraine. But I don't think we're making their lives, or even the lives of their children to come, any better. To say the least. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg

IYasha 4y ago

what aggression?

prometheon1 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Ru...