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What exactly is the boundary between commercial and non-commercial use? E.g. say you make an educational video that contains a portion of using Mathematica on

What exactly is the boundary between commercial and non-commercial use? E.g. say you make an educational video that contains a portion of using Mathematica on RPI, and you could get ads income, is that indirect or direct commercial use? What if you use it to compute dimensions of some woodworking art piece that you sell later? What if you make a scientific or mathematical discovery thanks to it that you later use in some way to make money?

hiddencost 4y ago
The zeroeth boundary is "what your conscience will enforce." The first boundary is "what Wolfram is willing to enforce". The second boundary is "what a judge is willing to enforce". Likely the 0th boundary will kick in before the other two. If too many people misuse this, Wolfram may decide it was a bad idea and end the program. In practical terms, an overwhelming percentage of revenue comes from large institutions. Who have no incentive to steal the software.
- analog31 4y ago
  Also, since it's running on a Raspberry Pi, "what your patience will enforce," basically a performance limited version of the software.
  - kzrdude 4y ago
    it's an arm executable, so I've been wondering if it can be lifted over to run on Apple Silicon.
- jmugan 4y ago
  Those boundaries are pretty stressful.
CuriousCosmic 4y ago
From the Rpi Mathematica bundle license agreement: Permitted Uses and Installations: Subject to the terms of this Agreement and Your acceptance thereof, WRI grants You a non-exclusive license to use the Product solely for personal or educational purposes on a Model A or Model B Raspberry Pi computer. You are also authorized to: - maintain one archival copy of the Software on storage media; and - author and distribute Computable Document Format™ (CDF) files consistent with any associated licensing terms. Prohibited Uses: All uses of the Software and other elements of the Product not specifically stated in the Permitted Uses and Installations section of this Agreement or otherwise set forth in alternative or supplemental license agreements or terms of use are prohibited, including, without limitation: - directly or indirectly using the Product for commercial purposes; - decompiling, disassembling or reverse engineering the Software; - modifying the Software in any manner, except those portions written in the Wolfram Language and included as examples; - distributing, publishing, transferring, sublicensing, lending, leasing, renting or otherwise making available the Product or any portion of the Software, including collections of data, except as permitted at https://www.wolfram.com/components https://www.wolfram.com/components for distributing Wolfram Language code; - copying or allowing copying of the Product or any elements of the Product, except as permitted for the maintenance of an archival copy of the Software as allowed by the Permitted Uses and Installations section of this Agreement; - allowing access to the Product by any user other than Licensee; - removing any copyright, trademark or other proprietary notices from the Product; - installing separate components of each Controlling Process or Computation Process on separate computers, with the exception that the front end of a Controlling Process can be on a separate computer from the associated kernel; - using the Software for any illegal purpose or to create malicious programs, including but not limited to creating computer viruses and malware or denying computer bandwidth to WRI and its affiliates and users; and - using a password, activation key or other means of accessing the Software other than as specifically authorized by WRI. https://www.wolfram.com/legal/agreements/wolfram-mathematica-raspberry-pi/ https://www.wolfram.com/legal/agreements/wolfram-mathematica...
- Aardwolf 4y ago
  That's exactly where my question came from, specifically the part "directly or indirectly using the Product for commercial purposes" Almost all the rest is about slightly different topics (I'm specifically wondering about using it for its mathematical purpose, not about all those other things that don't give math results like modifying, decompiling, distributing, archival copies, ...)

hiddencost 4y ago

The zeroeth boundary is "what your conscience will enforce." The first boundary is "what Wolfram is willing to enforce". The second boundary is "what a judge is willing to enforce". Likely the 0th boundary will kick in before the other two. If too many people misuse this, Wolfram may decide it was a bad idea and end the program. In practical terms, an overwhelming percentage of revenue comes from large institutions. Who have no incentive to steal the software.

analog31 4y ago
Also, since it's running on a Raspberry Pi, "what your patience will enforce," basically a performance limited version of the software.
- kzrdude 4y ago
  it's an arm executable, so I've been wondering if it can be lifted over to run on Apple Silicon.
jmugan 4y ago
Those boundaries are pretty stressful.

CuriousCosmic 4y ago

From the Rpi Mathematica bundle license agreement: Permitted Uses and Installations: Subject to the terms of this Agreement and Your acceptance thereof, WRI grants You a non-exclusive license to use the Product solely for personal or educational purposes on a Model A or Model B Raspberry Pi computer. You are also authorized to: - maintain one archival copy of the Software on storage media; and - author and distribute Computable Document Format™ (CDF) files consistent with any associated licensing terms. Prohibited Uses: All uses of the Software and other elements of the Product not specifically stated in the Permitted Uses and Installations section of this Agreement or otherwise set forth in alternative or supplemental license agreements or terms of use are prohibited, including, without limitation: - directly or indirectly using the Product for commercial purposes; - decompiling, disassembling or reverse engineering the Software; - modifying the Software in any manner, except those portions written in the Wolfram Language and included as examples; - distributing, publishing, transferring, sublicensing, lending, leasing, renting or otherwise making available the Product or any portion of the Software, including collections of data, except as permitted at https://www.wolfram.com/components https://www.wolfram.com/components for distributing Wolfram Language code; - copying or allowing copying of the Product or any elements of the Product, except as permitted for the maintenance of an archival copy of the Software as allowed by the Permitted Uses and Installations section of this Agreement; - allowing access to the Product by any user other than Licensee; - removing any copyright, trademark or other proprietary notices from the Product; - installing separate components of each Controlling Process or Computation Process on separate computers, with the exception that the front end of a Controlling Process can be on a separate computer from the associated kernel; - using the Software for any illegal purpose or to create malicious programs, including but not limited to creating computer viruses and malware or denying computer bandwidth to WRI and its affiliates and users; and - using a password, activation key or other means of accessing the Software other than as specifically authorized by WRI. https://www.wolfram.com/legal/agreements/wolfram-mathematica-raspberry-pi/ https://www.wolfram.com/legal/agreements/wolfram-mathematica...

Aardwolf 4y ago
That's exactly where my question came from, specifically the part "directly or indirectly using the Product for commercial purposes" Almost all the rest is about slightly different topics (I'm specifically wondering about using it for its mathematical purpose, not about all those other things that don't give math results like modifying, decompiling, distributing, archival copies, ...)