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I will never buy a high end Android phone for three reasons: - no headphone jack - no SD card slot - all come with ad-ware and un-uninstallable third-party a
by foepys 4y ago
I will never buy a high end Android phone for three reasons:
- no headphone jack
- no SD card slot
- all come with ad-ware and un-uninstallable third-party apps like Facebook (except for Google Pixels, which don't satisfy the first two criteria)
Mid range is where it's at. Why pay $200 more for 256 instead of 128 GB when I can put in my 1,000 GB mircoSD card?
It's a shame that Fairphone went with the no SD card trend. I would have really liked to buy their phone...
- nehal3m 4y agoI have a FairPhone 4 with a card slot? No jack though.
- foepys 4y agoIt does? Maybe I misread the specs a few months ago, sorry. But as you said it doesn't have a jack.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoNo Jack is annoying, but usb dongle is tolerable and replaceable usb slot offsets the biggest downside.
- astrange 4y agoAre phone SD cards encrypted? Because they're not fast or reliable, so one would at least hope they're secure.
- pjmlp 4y agoYes, if you want them to be, by default not.
- foepys 4y agoThe newer microSD cards are quite fast. Not as fast as built-in storage but fast enough for things like photos and videos if you buy a card with the appropriate speed class. V30 512 GB costs about 40€ including VAT here in Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card#Class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card#Class
- hot_gril 4y agoSD cards are made for cameras etc, and they're good for that. They have sequential RW speeds to match common video formats at 1X speed or burst photo capture. The spec sheets won't tell you how terrible the random write speed is, and even the quoted sequential speeds aren't very good, but that's ok for cameras. I use a modern high-end SD card from SanDisk as semi-permanent storage in my MBP. If I copy anything to that card that's not a single file, it takes forever. Overall it feels worse than using an old HDD. I have to actually think about what I store on it (mostly videos/photos), so I totally see the reason for wanting more internal storage instead of an SD slot.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoWith a decent filesystem and a ram buffer the better microsd cards still beat an old 5400rpm 128GB HDD's sequential speed when doing random writes of ~500kB files by a fair margin. 150MB/s is nowhere near SSD speed, but it would saturate a SATA I port.
- yourusername 4y agoConsidering 100 GB HDD's came out 20+ years ago that's not very suprising. If people are comparing SD cards to HDD's they're probably comparing to HDD's made in the last 10 years.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoOP specifically cited an old hdd in the pre-ssd days. New HDDs are still at best on par with a high end microsd used as internal storage (compare an A2 microsd 'rated' at 2000 but actually getting about 800 iops vs a high end hdd benchmarking at 200-300). Mounting without a buffer on a badly chosen filesystem in what could well be the M1's abysmally slow sd reader isn't a representative test. Hare braned formatting tools will also often offset the filesystem by 512 Bytes (necessitating two writes and two reads for one 4k write) or use blocks that aren't 4kiB
- danuker 4y agoBecause tech companies are about to fill your storage with un-uninstallable bloat. Built-in storage is the next limitation, if you get past holding your huge-screen no-grip phone securely (like with a pop holder) and the battery that degrades exponentially f(time).
- motiejus 4y agoGoogle removed jack from Pixel, and I went shopping for an alternative when my last pixel broke down. Here is my filter: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?chk35mm=selected&sSIMTypes=4&sIPCerts=6&idCardslot=1 https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?chk35mm=selected&sSIMT... Ip68 is important. I went with xperia 10, and am positively surprised. Fits all the checkboxes and less undesired software than google. I don't have the mandatory search bar in the front screen!
- foepys 4y agoYour filter includes only eSIM but if you also include nanoSIM, you get 183 instead of only 5 results which is quite a lot. More than I expected.
- motiejus 4y agoI need the eSim. :) Obviously removing the filter yields more.
- thanksgiving 4y agoThank you for sharing. You convinced me to create my own list, which is also slim pickings https://gsmarena.com/results.php3?chk35mm=selected&chkAccelerometer=selected&chkGyro=selected&chkCompass=selected&chkProximity=selected&chkBarometer=selected&chkGPS=selected&chkUSBC=selected&nBatCapacityMin=5000&s5Gs=71&sIPCerts=6&idCardslot=1&sWLANs=7 https://gsmarena.com/results.php3?chk35mm=selected&chkAccele...
- 0cVlTeIATBs 4y agoFor whatever reason, Xperia phones are given the cold shoulder in these discussions. I secretly wish everyone who has complained about headphone jack/card slot/hole punch/screen size would buy one, and then limit their complaining to only whatever remains that an Xperia phone doesn't provide.
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- tildef 4y agoMight be worth having a look at Sony if you want to spend more money for whatever reason. Latest Xperia 1 and 5 both have 3.5mm jacks and SD card slots. There is some preinstalled software (camera apps, Google apps, probably FaceBook) but overall not too-too bad.
- thow_away_34564 4y agoI just wanted to say I have the Sony Xperia 1 iv and it is a great phone!
- hommelix 4y agoFairphone has a microSD card on their phone. At least there is one slot for a microSD card on my FP2 and FP4. Source: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/buy-fairphone-4 https://shop.fairphone.com/en/buy-fairphone-4 under specification/storage -> unfold the block "Storage" and under the main storage is : External storage capacity: microSD up to 2TB (SD 3.0)
- thow_away_34564 4y agoI just wanted to say for high-end Android phones that have all of the above I would look into the Sony Xperia line of phones. Great camera, great screen, headphone jack, microSD card slot too!