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I was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. My ASRock Fatality (sp) motherboard had a port for a module. https://www.tomshar

I was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. My ASRock Fatality (sp) motherboard had a port for a module. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-windows-11 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-w... Win11's line in the sand requirements aren't nearly as "bad" as Vista/XP/ME in terms of disruption. Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support.

sofixa 4y ago
> Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support. That's a non-starter because Intel upsell ECC as an "enterprise"/"prosumer" feature and regular, non-high-end/workstation/server processors don't support ECC. Sadly Intel is still the CPU market leader, so that would have meant Win11 not being able to run on most existing hardware at launch.
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- cptskippy 4y ago
  Yes, how different are Intel's consumer CPUs from their Enterprise? Is ECC disabled physically in their CPUs or is it simply a software limitation? AMD's CPUs have ECC support but the motherboard manufacturers don't support it. Intel has been shipping TPMs in CPUs for a while. That begs the question, is Intel dictating requirements to Microsoft or is Microsoft dictating them to Intel?
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. Oh dear, why is Microsoft upgrade assistant and documentation so misleading? I just got a new CPU!
- doubled112 4y ago
  I'm not sure they are. I can go into the UEFI settings and enable fTPM on the system. It still doesn't make it see the system as supported. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... It is only 2nd gen Ryzen and up. P.S. By reverse logic, I have disabled (f)TPM to block the upgrade on some machines.

sofixa 4y ago

> Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support. That's a non-starter because Intel upsell ECC as an "enterprise"/"prosumer" feature and regular, non-high-end/workstation/server processors don't support ECC. Sadly Intel is still the CPU market leader, so that would have meant Win11 not being able to run on most existing hardware at launch.

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cptskippy 4y ago
Yes, how different are Intel's consumer CPUs from their Enterprise? Is ECC disabled physically in their CPUs or is it simply a software limitation? AMD's CPUs have ECC support but the motherboard manufacturers don't support it. Intel has been shipping TPMs in CPUs for a while. That begs the question, is Intel dictating requirements to Microsoft or is Microsoft dictating them to Intel?

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. Oh dear, why is Microsoft upgrade assistant and documentation so misleading? I just got a new CPU!

doubled112 4y ago
I'm not sure they are. I can go into the UEFI settings and enable fTPM on the system. It still doesn't make it see the system as supported. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... It is only 2nd gen Ryzen and up. P.S. By reverse logic, I have disabled (f)TPM to block the upgrade on some machines.