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I'm not making any claims about the accuracy of the poll results because I have no idea how it was conducted, but the question "Do you agree or disagree with th

I'm not making any claims about the accuracy of the poll results because I have no idea how it was conducted, but the question "Do you agree or disagree with this statement: 'It’s OK to be white.'?" is certainly not meaningless even if it's loaded. There is a very unambiguously correct answer to that statement and if there is a population with a significant amount of people answering "no" that clearly demonstrates something problematic about current public attitudes and race relations.

viraptor 4y ago
I agree, it's only unambiguously correct in vacuum with no social context. Unless you control for what possible extra meaning can be assigned or implied here, it's a terrible poll - that's why I called it meaningless (as a poll question). If that one doesn't resonate for some people, let's try some other examples that should have unambiguously correct answers: "Is it ok to say gay?", "Is it ok to be a proud boy?", "Is it ok to support uniformed workers?", "Is it ok to love children?", etc. Now add the actual social context you're thinking of... Are they still unambiguous? A more meaningful one would be "do we still have issues with racism?" without a gotcha approach. (That the poll creator did not acknowledge)
- mightyham 4y ago
  >it's only unambiguously correct in vacuum with no social context No it's not, lol. There is quite literally no social context where objecting to someone's given race is the correct moral choice.
  - roflyear 4y ago
    "it's okay to be white" is a troll that originated on 4chan. In that context yeah you can disagree with the phrase.
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    - mightyham 4y ago
      That actually doesn't at all justify disagreeing with the phrase. Having a problem with a 4chan troll campaign is a different issue (and one I suspect most people have little to no knowledge of). This can very easily be likened to BLM. It's ok to not fully agree with the organization/movement but to disagree with the phrase "black lives matter" is simply wrong.
paulryanrogers 4y ago
The question is a racist dog whistle. Knowing that I'd hesitate to answer in the affirmative even as a Caucasian. I'd probably decline to continue with the poll.
- autoexec 4y ago
  Yeah, if all they had to choose from was a simple 'yes I agree' or 'no I don't agree' refusing to answer is the right move. Some answers need further explanation or else a lot of people will misunderstand you.
- roflyear 4y ago
  Yes, but you have to realize that is you and other people will react or think differently - and you're starting to get at why this compromises the poll entirely.
- mightyham 4y ago
  I think you need to get off the internet for a little while. The world does not revolve around 4chan memes, and the phrase "it's okay to be white" does not signal that someone is secretly a racial supremacist.

viraptor 4y ago

I agree, it's only unambiguously correct in vacuum with no social context. Unless you control for what possible extra meaning can be assigned or implied here, it's a terrible poll - that's why I called it meaningless (as a poll question). If that one doesn't resonate for some people, let's try some other examples that should have unambiguously correct answers: "Is it ok to say gay?", "Is it ok to be a proud boy?", "Is it ok to support uniformed workers?", "Is it ok to love children?", etc. Now add the actual social context you're thinking of... Are they still unambiguous? A more meaningful one would be "do we still have issues with racism?" without a gotcha approach. (That the poll creator did not acknowledge)

mightyham 4y ago
>it's only unambiguously correct in vacuum with no social context No it's not, lol. There is quite literally no social context where objecting to someone's given race is the correct moral choice.
- roflyear 4y ago
  "it's okay to be white" is a troll that originated on 4chan. In that context yeah you can disagree with the phrase.
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  - mightyham 4y ago
    That actually doesn't at all justify disagreeing with the phrase. Having a problem with a 4chan troll campaign is a different issue (and one I suspect most people have little to no knowledge of). This can very easily be likened to BLM. It's ok to not fully agree with the organization/movement but to disagree with the phrase "black lives matter" is simply wrong.

paulryanrogers 4y ago

The question is a racist dog whistle. Knowing that I'd hesitate to answer in the affirmative even as a Caucasian. I'd probably decline to continue with the poll.

autoexec 4y ago
Yeah, if all they had to choose from was a simple 'yes I agree' or 'no I don't agree' refusing to answer is the right move. Some answers need further explanation or else a lot of people will misunderstand you.
roflyear 4y ago
Yes, but you have to realize that is you and other people will react or think differently - and you're starting to get at why this compromises the poll entirely.
mightyham 4y ago
I think you need to get off the internet for a little while. The world does not revolve around 4chan memes, and the phrase "it's okay to be white" does not signal that someone is secretly a racial supremacist.