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I laughed out loud when the Ryzen 7 1700X (8c/16t @ 3.4GHz) in my main desktop didn't meet the minimum system requirements. It's just 5 years old now, and I ha

I laughed out loud when the Ryzen 7 1700X (8c/16t @ 3.4GHz) in my main desktop didn't meet the minimum system requirements. It's just 5 years old now, and I have a funny feeling it'll be more than powerful enough for a while yet.

vxNsr 4y ago
They’re ways to get around the restrictions though I don’t know why you’d want to. Windows 11 is a virus
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
  Windows is too much of a resource hog to be a virus.
Pxtl 4y ago
I have a similarly new PC and found there were BIOS settings needed to allow it to get windows 11 -- some security stuff that wasn't turned on by default. Of course, then I looked into what windows 11 provided and decided I'd wait a bit either way.
- cptskippy 4y ago
  I initially upgraded a Ryzen 7 1700 system with the hold TPM module, then got an incredible deal on a 5700X. I was surprised how much I had to fiddle in the BIOS with a year old motherboard to get things like Secure Boot and memory isolation working. It was something like 5 or 6 BIOS expeditions before I had all the right features enabled. Windows 11 is meh... They fixed some of my issues with 10 and created new ones. I wouldn't rush anyone to adopt it, it's a Vista/XP/ME style release. I'm expecting Windows 12 to be the keeper.
cptskippy 4y ago
I was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. My ASRock Fatality (sp) motherboard had a port for a module. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-windows-11 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-w... Win11's line in the sand requirements aren't nearly as "bad" as Vista/XP/ME in terms of disruption. Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support. That's a non-starter because Intel upsell ECC as an "enterprise"/"prosumer" feature and regular, non-high-end/workstation/server processors don't support ECC. Sadly Intel is still the CPU market leader, so that would have meant Win11 not being able to run on most existing hardware at launch.
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  - cptskippy 4y ago
    Yes, how different are Intel's consumer CPUs from their Enterprise? Is ECC disabled physically in their CPUs or is it simply a software limitation? AMD's CPUs have ECC support but the motherboard manufacturers don't support it. Intel has been shipping TPMs in CPUs for a while. That begs the question, is Intel dictating requirements to Microsoft or is Microsoft dictating them to Intel?
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  > was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. Oh dear, why is Microsoft upgrade assistant and documentation so misleading? I just got a new CPU!
  - doubled112 4y ago
    I'm not sure they are. I can go into the UEFI settings and enable fTPM on the system. It still doesn't make it see the system as supported. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... It is only 2nd gen Ryzen and up. P.S. By reverse logic, I have disabled (f)TPM to block the upgrade on some machines.

vxNsr 4y ago

They’re ways to get around the restrictions though I don’t know why you’d want to. Windows 11 is a virus

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
Windows is too much of a resource hog to be a virus.

Pxtl 4y ago

I have a similarly new PC and found there were BIOS settings needed to allow it to get windows 11 -- some security stuff that wasn't turned on by default. Of course, then I looked into what windows 11 provided and decided I'd wait a bit either way.

cptskippy 4y ago
I initially upgraded a Ryzen 7 1700 system with the hold TPM module, then got an incredible deal on a 5700X. I was surprised how much I had to fiddle in the BIOS with a year old motherboard to get things like Secure Boot and memory isolation working. It was something like 5 or 6 BIOS expeditions before I had all the right features enabled. Windows 11 is meh... They fixed some of my issues with 10 and created new ones. I wouldn't rush anyone to adopt it, it's a Vista/XP/ME style release. I'm expecting Windows 12 to be the keeper.

cptskippy 4y ago

I was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. My ASRock Fatality (sp) motherboard had a port for a module. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-windows-11 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/where-to-buy-tpm-2.0-for-w... Win11's line in the sand requirements aren't nearly as "bad" as Vista/XP/ME in terms of disruption. Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support.

sofixa 4y ago
> Honestly I wish they'd gone a step further and required ECC support. That's a non-starter because Intel upsell ECC as an "enterprise"/"prosumer" feature and regular, non-high-end/workstation/server processors don't support ECC. Sadly Intel is still the CPU market leader, so that would have meant Win11 not being able to run on most existing hardware at launch.
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- cptskippy 4y ago
  Yes, how different are Intel's consumer CPUs from their Enterprise? Is ECC disabled physically in their CPUs or is it simply a software limitation? AMD's CPUs have ECC support but the motherboard manufacturers don't support it. Intel has been shipping TPMs in CPUs for a while. That begs the question, is Intel dictating requirements to Microsoft or is Microsoft dictating them to Intel?
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> was in the same boat with the base 1700. It likely just needs a TPM module. Oh dear, why is Microsoft upgrade assistant and documentation so misleading? I just got a new CPU!
- doubled112 4y ago
  I'm not sure they are. I can go into the UEFI settings and enable fTPM on the system. It still doesn't make it see the system as supported. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... It is only 2nd gen Ryzen and up. P.S. By reverse logic, I have disabled (f)TPM to block the upgrade on some machines.