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‘Dilbert’ dropped by The Post, other papers, after cartoonist’s racist rant
- version_five 4y agoThere have been several recent threads including one that got a lot of comments https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=dilbert&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- archagon 4y agoI wish all the people who just want to stir shit up on HN would pack up and go to another site. This does not belong here, glad it got flagged.
- 0cVlTeIATBs 4y agoI'd agree except that Dilbert cutouts have been tacked to cubicle walls in the tech community for decades. Finding out that your workplace art is now controversial has some value.
- dzhiurgis 4y agoExcept most of the horrible comments are coming from team antifa
- autoexec 4y ago> Asked to comment in more detail about his remarks and the mass cancellations, Adams initially declined. He later told The Post in a text message: “Lots of people are angry, but I haven’t seen any disagreement yet, at least not from anyone who saw the context. Some questioned the poll data. That’s fair.” Does the article contain a link to the video? I don't see it, but I'm curious to see how context saves the kind of things the article claimed was being said.
- Steven420 4y agoI think this is the video you're looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s&t=802s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s&t=802s
- DuckFeathers 4y agoHere it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s&t=816s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s&t=816s We're supposed to watch that and pretend that it is a "racist rant".
- autoexec 4y agoIt's ignorant, and segregationist, and certainly after skipping around his videos the guy is clearly a nutjob, but it's odd that this is what sparked all the outrage. Is this really the worst thing he's said?
- viraptor 4y agoNah, he's been going at it for ages, just in more subtle words. I guess this is the first time he said some things directly enough and as you said, being openly ignorant of real issues.
- maximus-decimus 4y agoI'm pretty sure he said he was proud of his step-son for killing himself since the only 2 ways to deal with mental health issues in America are suicide and school shootings. That man sure has opinions. edit : I got it slightly wrong, he's saying parents of people with mental health issues have two choices : killing their own kids or watch people die Somehow that's worse https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1544679510674587648 https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/154467951067458764...
- torstenvl 4y agoWait. You're saying that he's being ignorant and segregationist, for not wanting to spend time with people who don't think it's okay for him to be the race he was born as? That's absurd. It is okay to be white. It is okay to be black. It is okay to be any race, creed, color, sex, or orientation. Anyone who says otherwise is a bigot. And no, it isn't segregationist not to want to spend time with people who are bigoted toward you.
- riidom 4y agohttps://archive.is/KJKR8 https://archive.is/KJKR8
- roflyear 4y ago"okay to be white" is a far-right cry. It is almost like saying white power and certainly is meant to be more charged than "all lives matter." Of course many black people will think negatively of a phrase that is designed to upset that demographic.
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- roflyear 4y agoWords mean something in context. It is obviously ok to be white, but that phrase is used in a context that is meant to be hateful: https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/its-okay-be-white https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/its-okay-be-white (btw it originated on 4chan as a troll lol)
- yucky 4y agoYou're missing the entire point. It is a clown world where Black Lives Matter (never mind the fact most people killed by cops are white), but saying it's okay to be white is somehow offensive. The entire absurdity of that is why it works as a troll. Nobody should be offended by that statement, and yet...
- roflyear 4y agoAnything can be offensive if you set it up right. Same with all lives matter. Idk what the issue with black lives matter is. You finding that term offensive speaks a lot to me and this conversation
- yucky 4y agoYou just said any term can be offensive and then said you don't know how BLM could be offensive. Most people killed by cops every year are white. Black Lives Matter presumes this is a black only or primarily a black issue. It's deeply offensive to the families and friends and communities of the majority of victims since they don't happen to be black.
- pbj1968 4y agoHe’s been baiting this for years. I guess he thinks there is more money to be made whining about being cancelled.
- oh_sigh 4y agoHe might also just literally be insane.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoI would bet on that. https://twitter.com/waltisfrozen/status/1559938511234428929?s=20 https://twitter.com/waltisfrozen/status/1559938511234428929?...
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- throwawaysalome 4y agohe thinks there is more money to be made whining I'm pretty sure he doesn't think that. He's mad, not stupid.
- ALittleLight 4y agoI very much doubt there's any significant amount of money to be made being this controversial - especially when compared to the alternatives of just not saying anything and collecting royalties. Or saying appropriate stuff. I see Scott Adams on Twitter sometimes, despite not following him. The man seems depressed and unhinged. His wife left him, he says the best part of his day is talking to his AI voice thing (Alexa?). I'd bet he's depressed and breaking down. I doubt he needs money.
- pengaru 4y agoTIL Dilbert's creator streams on YouTube... Considering his career is basically over either way, print is dead, maybe this is working as intended? That whole "no such thing as bad publicity" thing... I sure as hell wouldn't have watched any of his drivel today if not for this controversy bringing it to my attention.
- Gunax 4y agoIf you think at all that a Black american celebrity would be cancelled for saying to stay away from White people, I think would be celebrated, or atoeast tolerated. The racial tension Adams exposes are terrible, and the wrong direction for repairing the country. But let's not pretend that this was ever fair. Black separation is celebrated by the left, White separatism is condemned. As usual, they have no sense of hypocrisy. It's not so much that we like what Adams said, but we just find the double standards too much to bear.
- curiousDog 4y agoIs this the right way to expose that hypocrisy though? If his goal was to truly bring society together and eradicate hate, I'm sure someone as smart as Adams could expose it in a more amicable and less polarizing way.
- Gunax 4y agoIt isn't, and it's unfortunate. It plays into--rather than healing--racial tension.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago> If you think at all that a Black american celebrity would be cancelled for saying to stay away from White people, then you havent paid attention. It would be celebrated. Are there prominent examples? Kanye West is one star who has dimmed significantly after making some racist remarks.
- leeroyjenkins11 4y agoNick Cannon had some awful remarks: When you have a person that has the lack of pigment, the lack of melanin, they know that they will be annihilated,” Cannon explained on his “Cannon’s Class” podcast. “So the people that don’t have [melanin] are—I’mma say this carefully—are a little less...They’re acting out of fear. They’re acting out of low self-esteem. They’re acting out of a deficiency. So, therefore, the only way they can act is evil.” He got fired, but is now rehired. The firing was basically because his comments about Jewish people. Most outlets ignored what he said about people with white skin.
- fwlr 4y agoScott Adams is a smart guy who’s been going in this direction for years (not just since Trump). His comic centered on seeing through bullshit and you can’t write a comic like that for as long and as successfully as he has without seeing through some bullshit yourself. Since this was very predictably going to happen sooner or later, presumably he has already made arrangements for his financial security in the event of being cancelled. He is quoted as saying “I’m ruined”, which (knowing Scott) is equally likely to be the truth or be a clever manipulation - let them believe it worked so they move on.
- paulryanrogers 4y agoI'm not so sure this outcome was so inevitable. Fame and riches do offer some buffer to mistakes, yet this one comes across as epic. He's calling black people a hate group, and based on some flimsy 'evidence'. That's a big red line for anyone to cross, IMO at least.
- mindslight 4y agoA hazard of "seeing through bullshit" is that you eventually come to take the perspective for granted, think you have some innate ability to do so rather than the continual uphill battle it is, get complacent, and then end up getting stuck in a different reality distortion field. The same dynamic is at play with all of these US-focused anti-imperialists who had spent decades seeing through the US's bullshit, but then end up getting totally taken in by Russian imperial bullshit because it's familiarly anti-US.
- KyeRussell 4y agoEven compared to normal society, HN seems to have a complete blind spot for any sort of performative behaviour on both sides of ‘cancel culture’. The recent thread on all the ‘censorship’ of Dahl’s books made that incredibly evident. Plenty of people here seem so excited to point out any overreach by pearl-clutching modern progressives that they can’t differentiate legitimate pearl-clutching from someone (in that case, Dahl’s estate / the publisher) performing a poor imitation because they themselves are scared of the mob. And then on the other side, people seem unable to differentiate between a run of the mill cancelling, someone manufacturing their own cancelling because it’d suit their narrative, and someone legitimately becoming increasingly unhinged and deranged.
- xqcgrek2 4y agoRidiculous. At least print is dead anyway.
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- senectus1 4y agoI dont actually understand the question.. what does "Is it ok to be white" mean?
- Kye 4y agoIt was a troll campaign racists glommed on to, so now it's a dogwhistle. https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/its-okay-be-white https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/its-okay-be-white Rasmussen Reports is known for its slight average conservative bias. Given the poor design of the poll, this is an outlier where it's worse than slight. This veers off into what I have to assume is intentional red meat for an increasingly radical base.
- bad_username 4y agoA generic phrase that is obviously true at face value has been declared "trolling" and everybody just agrees to concede it? And blame people who utter it? Is it OK to just lose language territory so easily? I am not American and this seems rather absurd to me.
- Kye 4y agoIt's not a generic phrase. It's an obscure phrase no one really thought about outside hardcore racist circles until it was picked up by trolls and embraced up by more average racists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white >> "The suggestion for the use of posters with the saying originated on the message board /pol/ of 4chan, with the intent of provoking reactions. The saying was later spread by neo-Nazi groups and politically organized white supremacists, including former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke and The Daily Stormer.[4] A report by the Anti-Defamation League states that the phrase itself has a history within the white supremacist movement going back to 2001 when it was used as the title of a song by a white power music group called Aggressive Force as well as fliers with the phrase being spotted in 2005 and the slogan being used by a member of the United Klans of America.[1]" >> "I am not American and this seems rather absurd to me." Racism here is not like most other places, so your struggling to believe it is understandable. It should be absurd and unthinkable, but it's our messed up reality.
- rurban 4y agoAFIAK He was already dropped last year from the papers for other similar incidents, now his video channel was dropped. His young trophy wife left him, and he announced his suicide for this year.