I might have to get a separate group to do it, like the ACM students. If I suggest it, even as an online sort of thing, it gets cut down. All of the sudden, it

I might have to get a separate group to do it, like the ACM students. If I suggest it, even as an online sort of thing, it gets cut down. All of the sudden, it can not be "something we support" that is not "part of the curriculum".