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And require me to throw away headphones that have worked fine for decades. Even this nokia phone has a 3.5mm port, why doesn't Google support it anymore?

riku_iki 4y ago
there are connectors. > why doesn't Google support it anymore? maybe preserve space for something else inside.
- kuschku 4y ago
  > there are connectors. Can I still charge my phone at the same time? Can I also get it with a larger battery? Should I just hot glue a connector, a powerpack, and a case to my phone to get an actual usable device out of it?
  - riku_iki 4y ago
    these are extra requirements in addition to updates and ability to use headphones, and which are specific to you. Looks like you are 0.001% minority, who doesn't pay enough money to draw interest from large manufacturers.
    - kuschku 4y ago
      Am I a minority? The vast majority of phone models built and sold today match precisely what I just asked for. It's only a few top of the line models which doesn't have these features. Devices which are more of a fashion statement than a device.
      - riku_iki 4y ago
        I doubt so. Most will lack some of your requirements.
        kuschku 4y ago
        In terms of hardware, all of the nokias, 90%+ of xiaomi or huawei models, all androidone models fit my requirements. Just,none of the recent flagships. Flagships used to have the most features, not the least.
        riku_iki 4y ago
        they all have larger battery than pixel? And you somehow forgot updates? I bet Chinese will send you updates, just not those you expect.
        kuschku 4y ago
        Currently I've got one of the last Android One devices. I've got a microSD slot, headphone jack, all the updates, I even got FM radio support.
        riku_iki 4y ago
        Still you have only 2 years of updates, and maybe inferior battery
toastal 4y ago
Why they don't support heodphones? Because Google needs to sell matching Pixel buds that can't be repaired due to size and operate on flaky Bluetooth connections with questionable sound quality.
- norin 4y ago
  it's pretty much nonsense tbh. you'd think they've learned something from previous phones.
electrosphere 4y ago
Dude, just get a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC adaptor. It's not expensive.
- kuschku 4y ago
  That'd just get lost. Such small devices constantly get lost, especially when not using the device for fun but e.g., to use the phone as an LTC reader to check timecode generators on set. (or even as cheap ToD LTC generator for multicam work). The headphone jack is not just for music, it's a versatile industry-standard connector. Being able to swap the same devices between a phone, zoom audio recorders, the monitoring out of my Ninja V, or audio interfaces when editing is a valuable advantage of a standard connector. And the entire rest of the industry continues using 3.5mm, 6.3mm and XLR. It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money.
  - riku_iki 4y ago
    > That'd just get lost. I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some. > It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money. companies have marketing department, who probably found that customers more interested in slick design and Ok to use usb-c buds or bluetooth headphones. LG used to produce phones with 3.5 and audiophile signal quality, now they are out of business.
    - kuschku 4y ago
      > I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some. Sadly many don't support all the features of a headphone port, meaning TRRS with control, allowing you to use an external microphone and play/pause/skip buttons as well. I'm using some tech that actually makes use of that, specifically as timecode reader for AV stuff. I need my phone to be a modern version of star trek's tricorder, not a piece of jewelry.

riku_iki 4y ago

there are connectors. > why doesn't Google support it anymore? maybe preserve space for something else inside.

kuschku 4y ago
> there are connectors. Can I still charge my phone at the same time? Can I also get it with a larger battery? Should I just hot glue a connector, a powerpack, and a case to my phone to get an actual usable device out of it?
- riku_iki 4y ago
  these are extra requirements in addition to updates and ability to use headphones, and which are specific to you. Looks like you are 0.001% minority, who doesn't pay enough money to draw interest from large manufacturers.
  - kuschku 4y ago
    Am I a minority? The vast majority of phone models built and sold today match precisely what I just asked for. It's only a few top of the line models which doesn't have these features. Devices which are more of a fashion statement than a device.
    - riku_iki 4y ago
      I doubt so. Most will lack some of your requirements.
      - kuschku 4y ago
        In terms of hardware, all of the nokias, 90%+ of xiaomi or huawei models, all androidone models fit my requirements. Just,none of the recent flagships. Flagships used to have the most features, not the least.
        riku_iki 4y ago
        they all have larger battery than pixel? And you somehow forgot updates? I bet Chinese will send you updates, just not those you expect.
        kuschku 4y ago
        Currently I've got one of the last Android One devices. I've got a microSD slot, headphone jack, all the updates, I even got FM radio support.
        riku_iki 4y ago
        Still you have only 2 years of updates, and maybe inferior battery

toastal 4y ago

Why they don't support heodphones? Because Google needs to sell matching Pixel buds that can't be repaired due to size and operate on flaky Bluetooth connections with questionable sound quality.

norin 4y ago
it's pretty much nonsense tbh. you'd think they've learned something from previous phones.

electrosphere 4y ago

Dude, just get a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC adaptor. It's not expensive.

kuschku 4y ago
That'd just get lost. Such small devices constantly get lost, especially when not using the device for fun but e.g., to use the phone as an LTC reader to check timecode generators on set. (or even as cheap ToD LTC generator for multicam work). The headphone jack is not just for music, it's a versatile industry-standard connector. Being able to swap the same devices between a phone, zoom audio recorders, the monitoring out of my Ninja V, or audio interfaces when editing is a valuable advantage of a standard connector. And the entire rest of the industry continues using 3.5mm, 6.3mm and XLR. It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money.
- riku_iki 4y ago
  > That'd just get lost. I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some. > It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money. companies have marketing department, who probably found that customers more interested in slick design and Ok to use usb-c buds or bluetooth headphones. LG used to produce phones with 3.5 and audiophile signal quality, now they are out of business.
  - kuschku 4y ago
    > I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some. Sadly many don't support all the features of a headphone port, meaning TRRS with control, allowing you to use an external microphone and play/pause/skip buttons as well. I'm using some tech that actually makes use of that, specifically as timecode reader for AV stuff. I need my phone to be a modern version of star trek's tricorder, not a piece of jewelry.