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> The real next innovation for an Android device maker will be providing at least 5 years of updates pixels starting with pixel 6 have 5 years of updates.

nevi-me 4y ago
It's unavailable in many markets. Even if one imports it, there's a risk that it becomes unrepairable (or costly to repair) if it breaks.
psydvl 4y ago
Oneplus 11 ships with same support (5 years android updates + 4 years security updates)
- schemescape 4y ago
  Wait, OnePlus provides 9 years of security updates? That is huge! Apple’s update policy (and history) is one of the two reasons I own an iPhone (SE). The other reason being all the unremovable junkware I’ve had on Android phones in the past. Next time I need to upgrade (hopefully 6+ years in the future), I will take another look at OnePlus.
  - riku_iki 4y ago
    The big issue is that OpenPlus is Chinese company, so they can install some backdoor on your phone anytime if CCP will ask. It may be safer to have another phone without security updates.
kuschku 4y ago
And require me to throw away headphones that have worked fine for decades. Even this nokia phone has a 3.5mm port, why doesn't Google support it anymore?
- riku_iki 4y ago
  there are connectors. > why doesn't Google support it anymore? maybe preserve space for something else inside.
  - kuschku 4y ago
    > there are connectors. Can I still charge my phone at the same time? Can I also get it with a larger battery? Should I just hot glue a connector, a powerpack, and a case to my phone to get an actual usable device out of it?
    - riku_iki 4y ago
      these are extra requirements in addition to updates and ability to use headphones, and which are specific to you. Looks like you are 0.001% minority, who doesn't pay enough money to draw interest from large manufacturers.
      - kuschku 4y ago
        Am I a minority? The vast majority of phone models built and sold today match precisely what I just asked for. It's only a few top of the line models which doesn't have these features. Devices which are more of a fashion statement than a device.
        riku_iki 4y ago
        I doubt so. Most will lack some of your requirements.
        kuschku 4y ago
        In terms of hardware, all of the nokias, 90%+ of xiaomi or huawei models, all androidone models fit my requirements. Just,none of the recent flagships. Flagships used to have the most features, not the least.
topspin 4y ago
> pixels starting with pixel 6 have 5 years of updates. Nice. Didn't know this. Got a 7 pro shortly after it came out; spectrum had a $400 discount on them.

nevi-me 4y ago

It's unavailable in many markets. Even if one imports it, there's a risk that it becomes unrepairable (or costly to repair) if it breaks.

psydvl 4y ago

Oneplus 11 ships with same support (5 years android updates + 4 years security updates)

schemescape 4y ago
Wait, OnePlus provides 9 years of security updates? That is huge! Apple’s update policy (and history) is one of the two reasons I own an iPhone (SE). The other reason being all the unremovable junkware I’ve had on Android phones in the past. Next time I need to upgrade (hopefully 6+ years in the future), I will take another look at OnePlus.
- riku_iki 4y ago
  The big issue is that OpenPlus is Chinese company, so they can install some backdoor on your phone anytime if CCP will ask. It may be safer to have another phone without security updates.

kuschku 4y ago

And require me to throw away headphones that have worked fine for decades. Even this nokia phone has a 3.5mm port, why doesn't Google support it anymore?

riku_iki 4y ago
there are connectors. > why doesn't Google support it anymore? maybe preserve space for something else inside.
- kuschku 4y ago
  > there are connectors. Can I still charge my phone at the same time? Can I also get it with a larger battery? Should I just hot glue a connector, a powerpack, and a case to my phone to get an actual usable device out of it?
  - riku_iki 4y ago
    these are extra requirements in addition to updates and ability to use headphones, and which are specific to you. Looks like you are 0.001% minority, who doesn't pay enough money to draw interest from large manufacturers.
    - kuschku 4y ago
      Am I a minority? The vast majority of phone models built and sold today match precisely what I just asked for. It's only a few top of the line models which doesn't have these features. Devices which are more of a fashion statement than a device.
      - riku_iki 4y ago
        I doubt so. Most will lack some of your requirements.
        kuschku 4y ago
        In terms of hardware, all of the nokias, 90%+ of xiaomi or huawei models, all androidone models fit my requirements. Just,none of the recent flagships. Flagships used to have the most features, not the least.

topspin 4y ago

> pixels starting with pixel 6 have 5 years of updates. Nice. Didn't know this. Got a 7 pro shortly after it came out; spectrum had a $400 discount on them.