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I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when pep

I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when peppers, onions, garlic for example are getting soft, people usually call them "rotten", but I prefer them like this actually, there can even be some bacteria formation on it, it doesn't matter). That with regular walking/running outdoor helped me so much. A typical daily meal: Red/orange peppers, onions of all kind, spinach, mushrooms, tomatoes in a bucket, rince, add lemoon juice on top, and eat slowly, masticating properly, doing nothing else, fruits as well before or after clementines, grapes, figs, persimmons, dates, walnuts, amonds (depending on the season). (I'm not vegan but I rarely eat other things as I'm full with this, I started this because it was a cheap way to eat)

jaquer_1 4y ago
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samstave 4y ago
Forgive the following joke, however, I feel you may like it: Spoken dead-pan style in Steven Wright's voice: - "I used to have schizophrenia, but they still have it"
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  Well I'm still crazy, but at least I'm more aware of it, and can control and accept it (no more OCDs though)
- Animatronio 4y ago
  Steven Wright the stand-up comedian or Steven Wright the serial killer?
  - samstave 4y ago
    Comedian
- jredwards 4y ago
  Mitch Hedberg? “I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.”
- car 4y ago
  Please don't perpetuate misunderstandings about schizophrenia. It has nothing to do with multiple personalities. https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-myths-and-facts https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-myths-and-...
- samstave 4y ago
  I've updated this joke just now, but they still haven't - Spoken as the magnanimous Stephen Wright the comedian ; "We used to have schizophrenia, but now... only to them." - "schizophrenics used to make jokes to their friends... but now, only to us." "I used to be afraid of schizophrenic's comments, but now I just dont know where they are coming from" "A schizophrenic once told me this, and this is true, a Mayan saying is In'Laketch - which means "Iam another yourself" -- and this was my best friend. So I had only one response. "I don't even know who you are any more"
heyoni 4y ago
Do you know how many calories you’re getting with this?
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  I don't measure anyhing to be honest, I stop eating when I'm full, and only 1 or 2 meal a day It gives me enough energy to go get this food with my bike, 15km away at markets, also helping merchants, I do this twice per week. The rest of the time I work remotely for me real employer The amount of calories is not only relevant, the way to digest it efficiently as well
poisonarena 4y ago
how do you know it is from eating vegetables and not just dialed down with time or other factors?
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  The psychiatrists I saw years ago said it will only get worse with time, and he gave me an antipsychotics treatment, I tried 4 months then stopped because my brain was so disconnected, I felt like a vegetable, I couldn't even write or talk properly. Antidepressant or lighter drugs didn't have much effect. So I tried to cure myself with other ways (a bit coincidentally with food)
  - tudorw 4y ago
    or pharmanutrition as it's been rebranded :)
  - user395929935 4y ago
    It sounds like you’re getting all the nutrients needed to create gastric juices. Here’s a link to a study: https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Pentadecapeptide_BPC_157_and_the_central_nervous.3.aspx https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Penta... As someone with Schizoaffective this works for me. Going to start eating more veggies!
samstave 4y ago
I have a suggestion for a test for you ; A Yogi master I once knew said to not eat onions (nightshades) as they interfere with your psychic aura or something. Since you seem to have a handle on your diet, may I request you do an cleanse of sorts and not eat onions for ~1 month and report if you feel any differences?
- DoktorDelta 4y ago
  I wonder if "interfering with your aura" is just one interpretation of the inflammation and digestive issues that nightshades can cause. If I was living before medicine was a common practice I'd probably attribute diarrhea and cramps to "psychic auras" as well.
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    Quackery around “nightshades” should sound the same to you as quackery around “psychic auras” - they are in the same ballpark.
- qbrass 4y ago
  Onions and garlic are allium. Nightshades are tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, and peppers.
  - samstave 4y ago
    I know, I should have been more clear ; they were saying both interfere with your mind... Like I said, its just something I have been told - and it would be cool if somone could test it -- I eat so many damn onions a week, it would take me 6 months to detox from their sulfites.
  - scns 4y ago
    Sweeeg potato too?
- deleted 4y ago
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oblib 4y ago
I read not long ago about a connection between gut bugs and schizophrenia and how probiotics may help with that too. Looks to me like your diet may be doing the same thing. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763422003839 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014976342...
LinuxBender 4y ago
I don't have the link handy but I recall a study that found doing a bone marrow transplant from a person that has schizophrenia to a person that does not will give the recipient schizophrenia. More interesting is that it works the other way around. A non-schozophrenic person donating bone marrow to a person that has it seems to rid them of it. Not that this information is super useful. Bone marrow transplants are risky and painful or so I've read. I don't think this is the study I had found but it's probably related. [1] [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613125/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613125/
user395929935 4y ago
Thank you for being open and sharing your experience. I appreciate you sharing your dietary expertise. I’m currently in the middle of Dr. Hyman’s UltraMind solution book and plan to add your suggestions to my diet. Personally I’m diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder, and thought to add my experience as well. I ate junk for over 20 years growing up which didn’t help my brain/gut. In addition to foods, two things that have helped me tremendously and have not given me the horrendous side effects of Antipsychotics are what I’m currently taking: - Sarcosine 1 gram/day (dissolved in water) -- An amino acid that occurs naturally in foods such as egg yolks, turkey, and legumes, and can be bought as a dietary supplement. - BPC-157 250mcg ever other day (enteric coating capsule) -- Which is composed of 15 amino acids, is a partial sequence of body protection compound (BPC) that is discovered in and isolated from human gastric juice (Don’t blindly take my advice or change medicines without supervision, I make no guarantees on efficacy or safety.) I have a good deal of research notes on what I’ve found on why they work but hacker news has smarter people than I and would love to hear from others. The brain gut connection is massively important.
- user395929935 4y ago
  Here's a few studies on both for reference: Sarcosine: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sarcosine https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sarcosine The NMDA Receptor and Schizophrenia: From Pathophysiology to Treatment https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5518924/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5518924/ Efficacy and cognitive effect of sarcosine (N-methylglycine) in patients with schizophrenia: A systematic review and meta-analysis of double-blind randomised controlled trials https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32122256/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32122256/ Two grams of sarcosine in schizophrenia - is it too much? A potential role of glutamate-serotonin interaction https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24523591/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24523591/ BPC-157: Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 and the central nervous system https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Pentadecapeptide_BPC_157_and_the_central_nervous.3.aspx https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Penta... Brain-gut Axis and Pentadecapeptide BPC 157: Theoretical and Practical Implications https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333585/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333585/ A novel pentadecapeptide, BPC 157, blocks the stereotypy produced acutely by amphetamine and the development of haloperidol-induced supersensitivity to amphetamine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9547930/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9547930/ BPC 157, L-NAME, L-Arginine, NO-Relation, in the Suited Rat Ketamine Models Resembling "Negative-Like" Symptoms of Schizophrenia https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35884767/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35884767/ Gastric pentadecapeptide BPC 157 effective against serotonin syndrome in rats https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15840402/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15840402/ Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 attenuates chronic amphetamine-induced behavior disturbances https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11978191/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11978191/

jaquer_1 4y ago

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samstave 4y ago

Forgive the following joke, however, I feel you may like it: Spoken dead-pan style in Steven Wright's voice: - "I used to have schizophrenia, but they still have it"

11235813213455 4y ago
Well I'm still crazy, but at least I'm more aware of it, and can control and accept it (no more OCDs though)
Animatronio 4y ago
Steven Wright the stand-up comedian or Steven Wright the serial killer?
- samstave 4y ago
  Comedian
jredwards 4y ago
Mitch Hedberg? “I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.”
car 4y ago
Please don't perpetuate misunderstandings about schizophrenia. It has nothing to do with multiple personalities. https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-myths-and-facts https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-myths-and-...
samstave 4y ago
I've updated this joke just now, but they still haven't - Spoken as the magnanimous Stephen Wright the comedian ; "We used to have schizophrenia, but now... only to them." - "schizophrenics used to make jokes to their friends... but now, only to us." "I used to be afraid of schizophrenic's comments, but now I just dont know where they are coming from" "A schizophrenic once told me this, and this is true, a Mayan saying is In'Laketch - which means "Iam another yourself" -- and this was my best friend. So I had only one response. "I don't even know who you are any more"

heyoni 4y ago

Do you know how many calories you’re getting with this?

11235813213455 4y ago
I don't measure anyhing to be honest, I stop eating when I'm full, and only 1 or 2 meal a day It gives me enough energy to go get this food with my bike, 15km away at markets, also helping merchants, I do this twice per week. The rest of the time I work remotely for me real employer The amount of calories is not only relevant, the way to digest it efficiently as well

poisonarena 4y ago

how do you know it is from eating vegetables and not just dialed down with time or other factors?

11235813213455 4y ago
The psychiatrists I saw years ago said it will only get worse with time, and he gave me an antipsychotics treatment, I tried 4 months then stopped because my brain was so disconnected, I felt like a vegetable, I couldn't even write or talk properly. Antidepressant or lighter drugs didn't have much effect. So I tried to cure myself with other ways (a bit coincidentally with food)
- tudorw 4y ago
  or pharmanutrition as it's been rebranded :)
- user395929935 4y ago
  It sounds like you’re getting all the nutrients needed to create gastric juices. Here’s a link to a study: https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Pentadecapeptide_BPC_157_and_the_central_nervous.3.aspx https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Penta... As someone with Schizoaffective this works for me. Going to start eating more veggies!

samstave 4y ago

I have a suggestion for a test for you ; A Yogi master I once knew said to not eat onions (nightshades) as they interfere with your psychic aura or something. Since you seem to have a handle on your diet, may I request you do an cleanse of sorts and not eat onions for ~1 month and report if you feel any differences?

DoktorDelta 4y ago
I wonder if "interfering with your aura" is just one interpretation of the inflammation and digestive issues that nightshades can cause. If I was living before medicine was a common practice I'd probably attribute diarrhea and cramps to "psychic auras" as well.
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Quackery around “nightshades” should sound the same to you as quackery around “psychic auras” - they are in the same ballpark.
qbrass 4y ago
Onions and garlic are allium. Nightshades are tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, and peppers.
- samstave 4y ago
  I know, I should have been more clear ; they were saying both interfere with your mind... Like I said, its just something I have been told - and it would be cool if somone could test it -- I eat so many damn onions a week, it would take me 6 months to detox from their sulfites.
- scns 4y ago
  Sweeeg potato too?
deleted 4y ago
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oblib 4y ago

I read not long ago about a connection between gut bugs and schizophrenia and how probiotics may help with that too. Looks to me like your diet may be doing the same thing. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763422003839 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014976342...

LinuxBender 4y ago

I don't have the link handy but I recall a study that found doing a bone marrow transplant from a person that has schizophrenia to a person that does not will give the recipient schizophrenia. More interesting is that it works the other way around. A non-schozophrenic person donating bone marrow to a person that has it seems to rid them of it. Not that this information is super useful. Bone marrow transplants are risky and painful or so I've read. I don't think this is the study I had found but it's probably related. [1] [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613125/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613125/

user395929935 4y ago

Thank you for being open and sharing your experience. I appreciate you sharing your dietary expertise. I’m currently in the middle of Dr. Hyman’s UltraMind solution book and plan to add your suggestions to my diet. Personally I’m diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder, and thought to add my experience as well. I ate junk for over 20 years growing up which didn’t help my brain/gut. In addition to foods, two things that have helped me tremendously and have not given me the horrendous side effects of Antipsychotics are what I’m currently taking: - Sarcosine 1 gram/day (dissolved in water) -- An amino acid that occurs naturally in foods such as egg yolks, turkey, and legumes, and can be bought as a dietary supplement. - BPC-157 250mcg ever other day (enteric coating capsule) -- Which is composed of 15 amino acids, is a partial sequence of body protection compound (BPC) that is discovered in and isolated from human gastric juice (Don’t blindly take my advice or change medicines without supervision, I make no guarantees on efficacy or safety.) I have a good deal of research notes on what I’ve found on why they work but hacker news has smarter people than I and would love to hear from others. The brain gut connection is massively important.

user395929935 4y ago
Here's a few studies on both for reference: Sarcosine: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sarcosine https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sarcosine The NMDA Receptor and Schizophrenia: From Pathophysiology to Treatment https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5518924/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5518924/ Efficacy and cognitive effect of sarcosine (N-methylglycine) in patients with schizophrenia: A systematic review and meta-analysis of double-blind randomised controlled trials https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32122256/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32122256/ Two grams of sarcosine in schizophrenia - is it too much? A potential role of glutamate-serotonin interaction https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24523591/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24523591/ BPC-157: Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 and the central nervous system https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Pentadecapeptide_BPC_157_and_the_central_nervous.3.aspx https://journals.lww.com/nrronline/Fulltext/2022/03000/Penta... Brain-gut Axis and Pentadecapeptide BPC 157: Theoretical and Practical Implications https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333585/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333585/ A novel pentadecapeptide, BPC 157, blocks the stereotypy produced acutely by amphetamine and the development of haloperidol-induced supersensitivity to amphetamine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9547930/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9547930/ BPC 157, L-NAME, L-Arginine, NO-Relation, in the Suited Rat Ketamine Models Resembling "Negative-Like" Symptoms of Schizophrenia https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35884767/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35884767/ Gastric pentadecapeptide BPC 157 effective against serotonin syndrome in rats https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15840402/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15840402/ Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 attenuates chronic amphetamine-induced behavior disturbances https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11978191/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11978191/