My experience is also exactly like this. I have a project in java/spring and it uses hibernate as an ORM. I can't think of how much better is the Django ORM tha

My experience is also exactly like this. I have a project in java/spring and it uses hibernate as an ORM. I can't think of how much better is the Django ORM than hibernate. When people express hate for ORMs I understand where this hates comes from. If I ever need to do another Java project I prefer to use raw jdbc sql than using hibernate.