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> The Nokia G22 will cost from £149.99 shipping on 8 March with replacement parts costing £18.99 for a charging port, £22.99 for a battery and £44.99 for a scre

by f311a 4y ago

> The Nokia G22 will cost from £149.99 shipping on 8 March with replacement parts costing £18.99 for a charging port, £22.99 for a battery and £44.99 for a screen. So, after a year of use the cost of replacing a battery and the screen will be close the market value of a used phone. A lot of people will go for a new phone.

yazzku 4y ago
22.99 + 44.99 = 67.98 149.99 / 67.98 = 2.206 So the new phone costs >2x. Also, why do you need to replace the battery after 1 year, let alone the screen?
- f311a 4y ago
  New phone does not mean the same model. New phone usually has more features and a newer version of Android. That’s how consumers usually think about the benefits of a new phone I guess. Very few people care about sustainability.
  - yazzku 4y ago
    Can't argue with "few people care", but I'm just not sure what "new features" or other nonsense you'd be getting. I think much of the new phone-buying, Apple fanboys aside, is that carriers make it easy to constantly upgrade with "$0" upgrade plans (where you basically end up paying the full cost of the phone anyway.) Legislation to ban or shape this kind of advertising could be beneficial to reduce e-waste.
aaronchall 4y ago
Perhaps close in absolute terms but still less than half the total price. I have never had to replace a screen before, but I have bought new batteries to replace on my own. An easily replaceable one would be nice.
interblag 4y ago
According to these numbers the combined cost of replacing the battery and the screen is 22.99 + 44.99 == 67.98, which is less than half (~45.3%) of the cost of the original new phone. Comparing that to the market value of a used phone is a bit unfair, since screens and batteries drive the depreciation of used phones more than any other components (ignoring EoL timelines for OS security updates, etc), and in this example you're getting new ones. Plus not everyone needs a new screen and battery every year. This definitely isn't going to be for everyone but, for what they're trying to do, IMO the numbers seem reasonable.

by f311a 4y ago

yazzku 4y ago

22.99 + 44.99 = 67.98 149.99 / 67.98 = 2.206 So the new phone costs >2x. Also, why do you need to replace the battery after 1 year, let alone the screen?

f311a 4y ago
New phone does not mean the same model. New phone usually has more features and a newer version of Android. That’s how consumers usually think about the benefits of a new phone I guess. Very few people care about sustainability.
- yazzku 4y ago
  Can't argue with "few people care", but I'm just not sure what "new features" or other nonsense you'd be getting. I think much of the new phone-buying, Apple fanboys aside, is that carriers make it easy to constantly upgrade with "$0" upgrade plans (where you basically end up paying the full cost of the phone anyway.) Legislation to ban or shape this kind of advertising could be beneficial to reduce e-waste.

aaronchall 4y ago

Perhaps close in absolute terms but still less than half the total price. I have never had to replace a screen before, but I have bought new batteries to replace on my own. An easily replaceable one would be nice.

interblag 4y ago

According to these numbers the combined cost of replacing the battery and the screen is 22.99 + 44.99 == 67.98, which is less than half (~45.3%) of the cost of the original new phone. Comparing that to the market value of a used phone is a bit unfair, since screens and batteries drive the depreciation of used phones more than any other components (ignoring EoL timelines for OS security updates, etc), and in this example you're getting new ones. Plus not everyone needs a new screen and battery every year. This definitely isn't going to be for everyone but, for what they're trying to do, IMO the numbers seem reasonable.