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This will be nice if and only if there is a way to install a custom android version. Otherwise it'll be bogged down with bloatware and will be useless as soon

by aspyct 4y ago

This will be nice if and only if there is a way to install a custom android version. Otherwise it'll be bogged down with bloatware and will be useless as soon as security updates aren't available anymore. But if so, very nice :)

hakfoo 4y ago
I have a G20, and it's pretty vanilla Android stock. I'm actually excited for this. My family tends to shop in this price range, and you've got a lot of fairly interchangeable phones out there. It ends up being sort of frustrating because there's no obvious right choice. Now you have a simple argument. You don't have to deep dive explain to Mom the difference between CPUs or manufacturer update policies, just "If this one breaks, it can be fixed without a huge production number." There was a time when one of the (admittedly secondary) arguments for buying an iPhone or Galaxy S (as opposed to a cheaper alternative) was that the local fix shops had a lot of dead scrap units and could arrange for a cheap quick fix, while if you bought a Nokia or Umidigi, you were waiting weeks for them to get parts and it was probably twice the cost because they didn't want to work on a phone they weren't wildly familiar with.
- AussieWog93 4y ago
  If you have a G20, your phone is probably already as repairable as this Nokia. I've personally pulled apart a G30 and it was basically identical to the phone they showed in the article.
studentik 4y ago
I imagine IntelliJ running on Archlinux from Nokia phone with wireless high-resolution glasses display
kornhole 4y ago
Until someone builds an OS variant for it, you can use the UAD (Universal Android Debloater) found on Github to remove most of that.
johnny22 4y ago
are you sure it doesn't? My low end "nokia" from HMD Global has an option to unlock the bootloader. Maybe this one does as well.
- not_your_vase 4y ago
  It's a hit or miss with them... my old Nokia 6.1 (ditto HMD) came with no option to unlock the bootloader. Based on some superficial Googling, this phone's predecessor, G21 also comes without an unlockable bootloader.
  - johnny22 4y ago
    ah. my 6.2 does have an unlockable bootloader.
  - BLKNSLVR 4y ago
    I just unlocked a 6.1 for free using a method described on a website techmesto.com. Not affiliated, just can vouch for the process. Cool thing about 6.1 is that it's officially supported by LineageOS
cvalka 4y ago
There's no bloatware since Nokia's Android is Android one. However, the bootloader is locked and their Android's EOF is abysmal which is crazy.
- PufPufPuf 4y ago
  Do they seriously lock the bootloader of a "repairable" phone? That's the most important feature for me, which has prolonged the life of all my Android devices by several years.
  - Groxx 4y ago
    As long as there's a way to unlock it, does it matter? Do it once and it's done forever.
    - roryokane 4y ago
      I think you’re misunderstanding the Android bootloader model. All the Android phones I saw when researching one to buy came with locked bootloaders, even the easily-unlocked Google Pixel series. So it’s not even a question whether the bootloader will arrive unlocked. What differentiates models is whether “there’s a way to unlock it” – plenty of models don’t support any such way. (I didn’t consider some classes of Android phones in my research of which to buy, so this could be a faulty generalization.) The parent comments weren’t specific about whether this phone’s bootloader can be unlocked, but when they talk about this phone’s locked bootloader, I think unlockability is the issue they are really talking about.
      - Groxx 4y ago
        Fair, but Nokia sells/has sold many unlockable-bootloader devices, and nothing in this article suggests either way.
  - cvalka 4y ago
    From my experience with some of their models - they had been "unlockable". After some quick googling it seems it might have changed for some of their phones. Can someone with up to date knowledge correct me?

by aspyct 4y ago

hakfoo 4y ago

I have a G20, and it's pretty vanilla Android stock. I'm actually excited for this. My family tends to shop in this price range, and you've got a lot of fairly interchangeable phones out there. It ends up being sort of frustrating because there's no obvious right choice. Now you have a simple argument. You don't have to deep dive explain to Mom the difference between CPUs or manufacturer update policies, just "If this one breaks, it can be fixed without a huge production number." There was a time when one of the (admittedly secondary) arguments for buying an iPhone or Galaxy S (as opposed to a cheaper alternative) was that the local fix shops had a lot of dead scrap units and could arrange for a cheap quick fix, while if you bought a Nokia or Umidigi, you were waiting weeks for them to get parts and it was probably twice the cost because they didn't want to work on a phone they weren't wildly familiar with.

AussieWog93 4y ago
If you have a G20, your phone is probably already as repairable as this Nokia. I've personally pulled apart a G30 and it was basically identical to the phone they showed in the article.

studentik 4y ago

I imagine IntelliJ running on Archlinux from Nokia phone with wireless high-resolution glasses display

kornhole 4y ago

Until someone builds an OS variant for it, you can use the UAD (Universal Android Debloater) found on Github to remove most of that.

johnny22 4y ago

are you sure it doesn't? My low end "nokia" from HMD Global has an option to unlock the bootloader. Maybe this one does as well.

not_your_vase 4y ago
It's a hit or miss with them... my old Nokia 6.1 (ditto HMD) came with no option to unlock the bootloader. Based on some superficial Googling, this phone's predecessor, G21 also comes without an unlockable bootloader.
- johnny22 4y ago
  ah. my 6.2 does have an unlockable bootloader.
- BLKNSLVR 4y ago
  I just unlocked a 6.1 for free using a method described on a website techmesto.com. Not affiliated, just can vouch for the process. Cool thing about 6.1 is that it's officially supported by LineageOS

cvalka 4y ago

There's no bloatware since Nokia's Android is Android one. However, the bootloader is locked and their Android's EOF is abysmal which is crazy.

PufPufPuf 4y ago
Do they seriously lock the bootloader of a "repairable" phone? That's the most important feature for me, which has prolonged the life of all my Android devices by several years.
- Groxx 4y ago
  As long as there's a way to unlock it, does it matter? Do it once and it's done forever.
  - roryokane 4y ago
    I think you’re misunderstanding the Android bootloader model. All the Android phones I saw when researching one to buy came with locked bootloaders, even the easily-unlocked Google Pixel series. So it’s not even a question whether the bootloader will arrive unlocked. What differentiates models is whether “there’s a way to unlock it” – plenty of models don’t support any such way. (I didn’t consider some classes of Android phones in my research of which to buy, so this could be a faulty generalization.) The parent comments weren’t specific about whether this phone’s bootloader can be unlocked, but when they talk about this phone’s locked bootloader, I think unlockability is the issue they are really talking about.
    - Groxx 4y ago
      Fair, but Nokia sells/has sold many unlockable-bootloader devices, and nothing in this article suggests either way.
- cvalka 4y ago
  From my experience with some of their models - they had been "unlockable". After some quick googling it seems it might have changed for some of their phones. Can someone with up to date knowledge correct me?