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Can you share a few? I am clueless of this culture.

by yeahwhatever10 4y ago

simonw 4y ago
Try searching TikTok for ChatGPT and you'll quickly get exposed to a whole bunch of this stuff.
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rchaud 4y ago
"Gary V" is probably the biggest huckster, although the universe of 'hustle culture' charlatans is wide and deep. Just search "ChatGPT" and look for thumbnails where they're making mouth-agape "I'm Shocked!!" faces and an all-caps title about making money.
- imiric 4y ago
  To be fair, Gary V _has_ walked the walk, and is a "proper" entrepreneur. Him making money on his personal brand doesn't make him any more of a huckster than Mark Cuban and the like. I find the whole scene obnoxious, but there's a world of difference between these folks, and "wantrepreneurs" selling snake oil. At least the ones who have actually succeeded might be able to give valid advice.
  - namaria 4y ago
    I disagree. This is all just the system working as intended. You're just letting the halo effect of extreme levels of success in attaining prosperity making you accept a double standard.
  - xwdv 4y ago
    Gary V is a success launderer. He made money from inheritance and then used that to build a foundation for a successful backstory for entrepreneurial credibility, so he can use it for justification on why you should listen to him and buy his courses. There’s a LOT of people like this.
    - imiric 4y ago
      > He made money from inheritance Do you have sources for this? From what I've read, he took over his family's moderately successful wine business and made it a multimillion dollar enterprise. Then he made his own very successful media firm. He clearly understands marketing and investing, and while he certainly gives off investbro vibes, he does actually know a thing or two. Dismissing him outright as a charlatan is a mistake.
      - xwdv 4y ago
        That is the typical success launderer blueprint. The steps: 1. Make money from family business you didn’t start, or just inherit money. 2. Start your own business, doesn’t matter if it is successful or a failure you just need something that’s yours, you already have money. 3. Talk a lot about your “successful” business, do the minimum to make it seem successful and maybe do some actual business activities. This will confuse people as to the ratio of your inherited money to self earned money. No one actually knows what your business is doing. 4. Declare yourself a successful investor. Investments have a wide range of success and failure. This gives more plausibility that the majority of your money may be from “investments” and not inheritance or family business. Literally anyone can be an investor, the difference is the size of investments. With these easy steps, you can now dismiss people’s claims that you were just born into the right family by pointing to some vanity business you started or going on about how your modest investment in some stock or crypto blew up. You can come up with all kinds of wild stories that way, and never really reveal the true secret. If they try to bring it up you can say how supportive your family was but most of your success was self made, which can just be a lie no one will be able to truly verify unless they look at your accounting. This is how Gary V operates, and even if he knows some stuff, it’s just not that impressive as an actual businessman like Mark Cuban or something. Selling courses is beneath anyone who made actual success, it’s just not going to happen.
        imiric 4y ago
        I mean, you can be that cynical towards any marketing influencer. Yes, there is a closed loop with these businesses, where the amount of revenue from being an influencer vs. their own business is not well known. In Gary V's case, I would argue that his path towards success wasn't based on this. He had already built up his parent's business before he was a public figure. He understood the power of e-commerce, marketing and branding very early on, before social media existed. Today he's very successful consulting companies on how to do this better. These are all valuable skills people will gladly pay him for. This is very different from the blueprint you've outlined.
ngc248 4y ago
Using ChatGPT to get stock tips or stock predictions and then trade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjWfZm5jZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjWfZm5jZk Extremely low value scammy content

Can you share a few? I am clueless of this culture.

simonw 4y ago

Try searching TikTok for ChatGPT and you'll quickly get exposed to a whole bunch of this stuff.

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rchaud 4y ago

"Gary V" is probably the biggest huckster, although the universe of 'hustle culture' charlatans is wide and deep. Just search "ChatGPT" and look for thumbnails where they're making mouth-agape "I'm Shocked!!" faces and an all-caps title about making money.

imiric 4y ago
To be fair, Gary V _has_ walked the walk, and is a "proper" entrepreneur. Him making money on his personal brand doesn't make him any more of a huckster than Mark Cuban and the like. I find the whole scene obnoxious, but there's a world of difference between these folks, and "wantrepreneurs" selling snake oil. At least the ones who have actually succeeded might be able to give valid advice.
- namaria 4y ago
  I disagree. This is all just the system working as intended. You're just letting the halo effect of extreme levels of success in attaining prosperity making you accept a double standard.
- xwdv 4y ago
  Gary V is a success launderer. He made money from inheritance and then used that to build a foundation for a successful backstory for entrepreneurial credibility, so he can use it for justification on why you should listen to him and buy his courses. There’s a LOT of people like this.
  - imiric 4y ago
    > He made money from inheritance Do you have sources for this? From what I've read, he took over his family's moderately successful wine business and made it a multimillion dollar enterprise. Then he made his own very successful media firm. He clearly understands marketing and investing, and while he certainly gives off investbro vibes, he does actually know a thing or two. Dismissing him outright as a charlatan is a mistake.
    - xwdv 4y ago
      That is the typical success launderer blueprint. The steps: 1. Make money from family business you didn’t start, or just inherit money. 2. Start your own business, doesn’t matter if it is successful or a failure you just need something that’s yours, you already have money. 3. Talk a lot about your “successful” business, do the minimum to make it seem successful and maybe do some actual business activities. This will confuse people as to the ratio of your inherited money to self earned money. No one actually knows what your business is doing. 4. Declare yourself a successful investor. Investments have a wide range of success and failure. This gives more plausibility that the majority of your money may be from “investments” and not inheritance or family business. Literally anyone can be an investor, the difference is the size of investments. With these easy steps, you can now dismiss people’s claims that you were just born into the right family by pointing to some vanity business you started or going on about how your modest investment in some stock or crypto blew up. You can come up with all kinds of wild stories that way, and never really reveal the true secret. If they try to bring it up you can say how supportive your family was but most of your success was self made, which can just be a lie no one will be able to truly verify unless they look at your accounting. This is how Gary V operates, and even if he knows some stuff, it’s just not that impressive as an actual businessman like Mark Cuban or something. Selling courses is beneath anyone who made actual success, it’s just not going to happen.
      - imiric 4y ago
        I mean, you can be that cynical towards any marketing influencer. Yes, there is a closed loop with these businesses, where the amount of revenue from being an influencer vs. their own business is not well known. In Gary V's case, I would argue that his path towards success wasn't based on this. He had already built up his parent's business before he was a public figure. He understood the power of e-commerce, marketing and branding very early on, before social media existed. Today he's very successful consulting companies on how to do this better. These are all valuable skills people will gladly pay him for. This is very different from the blueprint you've outlined.

ngc248 4y ago

Using ChatGPT to get stock tips or stock predictions and then trade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjWfZm5jZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjWfZm5jZk Extremely low value scammy content