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That's like saying the illegal immigrants who cross Rio Grande are fully aware that they may die while doing so. So it is OK to let them die... they signed up f

That's like saying the illegal immigrants who cross Rio Grande are fully aware that they may die while doing so. So it is OK to let them die... they signed up for it. The point is that economic migrants often know they will be mistreated in the destination country, but that doesn't make it morally correct to mistreat them.

blindriver 4y ago
Your example is irrelevant. H1B holders are not being mistreated at all. They are being treated fairly. They are coming in on a work visa, and when they no longer have work, they need to leave. Are you suggesting they should be given permanent residency just for getting a job? I'm sure you'll find that no country in the world does that.
- petilon 4y ago
  If they are being treated fairly then that's one thing. Implying that if someone knew they are going to be treated unfairly then it is OK to treat them unfairly is another thing. Implying that some people of a particular race has done something bad, so it is OK to punish every person of that race, is well, racist.
  - blindriver 4y ago
    I agree. However, since H1B holders are treated fairly, it doesn't apply in your situation. It has nothing to do with race. You keep saying it's racist when it's not. The system is very fair, and especially fair toward people from India. You can't claim it's racist, you have no evidence, all the evidence points to it's very fair for Indians.
    - petilon 4y ago
      It is not the system I have a problem with. It is your statement that all Indians must pay for the behavior of some (i.e., body shops). Also, your claim of Indian friend reminds me of [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_not_racist,_I_have_black_friends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_not_racist,_I_have_black...
      - blindriver 4y ago
        You're the racist here, accusing everyone of racism and lying about what they said when it's clearly written above. It's a sad way of living life but I guess some people can't live with the truth.
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- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > They are coming in on a work visa, and when they no longer have work, they need to leave. This is not accurate, and the crux of my post. They need to leave when they no longer are able to find an employer willing to sponsor them for an H1-B and do all the paperwork. It would be much less of a problem if what you wrote was true, that the work visa meant they could stay as long as they were working.
  - blindriver 4y ago
    If they don't have an employer, they don't have work.

blindriver 4y ago

Your example is irrelevant. H1B holders are not being mistreated at all. They are being treated fairly. They are coming in on a work visa, and when they no longer have work, they need to leave. Are you suggesting they should be given permanent residency just for getting a job? I'm sure you'll find that no country in the world does that.

petilon 4y ago
If they are being treated fairly then that's one thing. Implying that if someone knew they are going to be treated unfairly then it is OK to treat them unfairly is another thing. Implying that some people of a particular race has done something bad, so it is OK to punish every person of that race, is well, racist.
- blindriver 4y ago
  I agree. However, since H1B holders are treated fairly, it doesn't apply in your situation. It has nothing to do with race. You keep saying it's racist when it's not. The system is very fair, and especially fair toward people from India. You can't claim it's racist, you have no evidence, all the evidence points to it's very fair for Indians.
  - petilon 4y ago
    It is not the system I have a problem with. It is your statement that all Indians must pay for the behavior of some (i.e., body shops). Also, your claim of Indian friend reminds me of [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_not_racist,_I_have_black_friends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_not_racist,_I_have_black...
    - blindriver 4y ago
      You're the racist here, accusing everyone of racism and lying about what they said when it's clearly written above. It's a sad way of living life but I guess some people can't live with the truth.
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lotsofpulp 4y ago
> They are coming in on a work visa, and when they no longer have work, they need to leave. This is not accurate, and the crux of my post. They need to leave when they no longer are able to find an employer willing to sponsor them for an H1-B and do all the paperwork. It would be much less of a problem if what you wrote was true, that the work visa meant they could stay as long as they were working.
- blindriver 4y ago
  If they don't have an employer, they don't have work.