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Okay, my fren, you bring up this rape allegations a lot so let's clear that up once and for all: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-against

Okay, my fren, you bring up this rape allegations a lot so let's clear that up once and for all: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-against-russian-troops-in-ukraine-were-fake.html https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again... https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-rights-chief-russian-rape.html https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r... https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-raping-women-and-teenagers/ https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi... > Okay show me some evidence that isn't from some Russian propagandist site. Though I don't fully get what defines "propagandist site", but ok, I'll try: https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land-mines-russia/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-missile-killed-dozens-at-kramatorsk-train-station.html https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m... https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-people-and-war-crimes-videos/ https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p... https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-report-Torture-and-inhumane-treatment-of-civilians https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor... See? Ukraine does some fucked up shit too. Didn't you know about it? > A theory with no credibility either. You gave me nothing to work with aside from "I saw it in some pro-russian tg channel", I could come up with dozens of similar shit from pro-ukrainian channels. > caught in 4k, with an admission on camera its all 'fake news propaganda'. Link the video then. > Russia should get out of Ukraine They will. Once the goals of special operation are achieved. Leaving right now is not an option. Leaving right now means losing. It means that abandoning people who waited so long for Russia to protect them. If Russia leaves now all of them will be in danger. So the only option is to fight until victorious end. And Russia will win. Whether you like it or not. All the NATO is doing is prolonging the suffering of both Ukraine and Russia, while also making some buck. > and stop committing all the war crimes they seem endlessly commit. yeah, "seem". And don't get me wrong. I'm not denying that probably some of this war crime allegations are probably true, but it's over the top what the west claims. Ukraine is also guilty with evidence, but the west seems hesitant to talk about it, and maybe some of this is fake, but now it's too early to decide. The nature of the situation in Ukraine rn doesn't accommodate for real thorough investigation. Plus the information warfare going on, and Russian propaganda machine sucks compared to NATO's. Every side tries to smear the other, and it's really hard to tell what's true and what's a lie. This argument is kinda getting old. I'm tired of talking in circles. I'm tired of trying to educate you that it's not so one-sided. This is maybe, probably my last message in this thread. All I want is peace between our countries once again. But the capitalist pigs and sellout media don't exactly help the cause. My whataboutism is there to show that we are all the same. So please stop perpetuating hate towards Russia just because your media told you so. Try to really analyze the situation. When you see some information look who profits from that information, then look for other sources. The situation is probably more complex than was presented to you initially. And finally read some Marx and Lenin, especially the "Imperialism as the highest form of capitalism" it thoroughly explains why capitalism is incompatible with peaceful coexistence.

_kbh_ 4y ago
kay, my fren, you bring up this rape allegations a lot so let's clear that up once and for all: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again... https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r... https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi... Let's do this. > https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again... What is this even? this is a random post on a random website that literally just spews out pro Russian propaganda nearly constantly. > https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r... > Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience, disinformation, and far-right extremism.[1][9] The website began publishing articles in 2008 and is based in the United States.[1][6] > https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi... https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-how-a-fact-checking-website-is-spreading-russian-propaganda/a-61062940 https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-how-a-fact-checking-websit... Funny that all your sources appear to spread misinformation and disinformation, do you have any sources that are mainstream or have any credibility?. > Though I don't fully get what defines "propagandist site", but ok, I'll try: https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m... https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p... https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor... > https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s... A random sub stack? that really tries to stretch thin and misrepresented the bare information it has? the best so far I guess. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land... Nasty mines, and they probably shouldn't be using them. > https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m... Once again a random website with no credibility > https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 look, ill admit that Ukraine has done some not good things in the war, but using the country who invaded press service that is 100% controlled by the government as a source is pretty hilarious. bonus from tass https://tass.com/politics/1400517 https://tass.com/politics/1400517 > MOSCOW, February 9. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Wednesday said Russia doesn’t plan to invade Ukraine and blamed the US for "aggressive plans." LOL. > https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p... Huh unsubstantiated claims that lead to a lot of dead twitter links strange, but if they did do any of that stuff it should be 100% investigated. > https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ hmm > Overall, we rate Signs of the Times (SOTT) Right Biased and a strong Conspiracy and Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of false, unproven, or misleading information that cannot be verified or has been debunked. I'll admit you have two real sources but one is literally the propaganda outlet of the country invading and the other article is no where near as bad as it sounds. > They will. Once the goals of special operation are achieved. Leaving right now is not an option. Leaving right now means losing. It means that abandoning people who waited so long for Russia to protect them. If Russia leaves now all of them will be in danger. So the only option is to fight until victorious end. More Ukrainian civilians have died in a single year than in the entire war in the Donbas but okay. The goals of the SMO are to rape, torture and terrorise Ukraine into to be subservient to the new faschist state that proudly flies there Z like a swastika. > My whataboutism is there to show that we are all the same. So please stop perpetuating hate towards Russia just because your media told you so. Im perpetuating hate towards the people committing war crimes in Ukraine against Ukrainians.

_kbh_ 4y ago

kay, my fren, you bring up this rape allegations a lot so let's clear that up once and for all: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again... https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r... https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi... Let's do this. > https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-again... What is this even? this is a random post on a random website that literally just spews out pro Russian propaganda nearly constantly. > https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-02-ukraine-fires-human-r... > Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience, disinformation, and far-right extremism.[1][9] The website began publishing articles in 2008 and is based in the United States.[1][6] > https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi https://waronfakes.com/common/fake-russian-soldiers-are-rapi... https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-how-a-fact-checking-website-is-spreading-russian-propaganda/a-61062940 https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-how-a-fact-checking-websit... Funny that all your sources appear to spread misinformation and disinformation, do you have any sources that are mainstream or have any credibility?. > Though I don't fully get what defines "propagandist site", but ok, I'll try: https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m... https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p... https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor... > https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-s... A random sub stack? that really tries to stretch thin and misrepresented the bare information it has? the best so far I guess. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/31/ukraine-land... Nasty mines, and they probably shouldn't be using them. > https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-m... Once again a random website with no credibility > https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 https://tass.com/emergencies/1434847 look, ill admit that Ukraine has done some not good things in the war, but using the country who invaded press service that is 100% controlled by the government as a source is pretty hilarious. bonus from tass https://tass.com/politics/1400517 https://tass.com/politics/1400517 > MOSCOW, February 9. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Wednesday said Russia doesn’t plan to invade Ukraine and blamed the US for "aggressive plans." LOL. > https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/29/ukrainians-torturing-p... Huh unsubstantiated claims that lead to a lot of dead twitter links strange, but if they did do any of that stuff it should be 100% investigated. > https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor https://www.sott.net/article/293871-Ukraine-war-crimes-repor... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ hmm > Overall, we rate Signs of the Times (SOTT) Right Biased and a strong Conspiracy and Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of false, unproven, or misleading information that cannot be verified or has been debunked. I'll admit you have two real sources but one is literally the propaganda outlet of the country invading and the other article is no where near as bad as it sounds. > They will. Once the goals of special operation are achieved. Leaving right now is not an option. Leaving right now means losing. It means that abandoning people who waited so long for Russia to protect them. If Russia leaves now all of them will be in danger. So the only option is to fight until victorious end. More Ukrainian civilians have died in a single year than in the entire war in the Donbas but okay. The goals of the SMO are to rape, torture and terrorise Ukraine into to be subservient to the new faschist state that proudly flies there Z like a swastika. > My whataboutism is there to show that we are all the same. So please stop perpetuating hate towards Russia just because your media told you so. Im perpetuating hate towards the people committing war crimes in Ukraine against Ukrainians.