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Hate the player. There is always a player regardless what the game is. There is no such thing as a better game that avoids this problem. If it became hipster t

Hate the player. There is always a player regardless what the game is. There is no such thing as a better game that avoids this problem. If it became hipster to be more conscious about how you respond to hustlers and everyone started doing it, then the exact same slime molds would become expert at projecting humble authority. It doesn't matter what the virtue is, the same people are always willing and able to signal that virtue. Absolutely hate that player. They exist in any and all games, and so "hate the game" doesn't help. There are better and worse games too, so you can hate bad games as well.

lazide 4y ago
But what is the point you’re making here? Hate everyone? Who should we not hate then?
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  The point I'm making is exactly the point I wrote. I could only repeat myself with practically tgr same words to restate it. I explicitly said there are some people who exhibit these qualities, not that all, or even most do. The point was, as I said already, that "don't hate the player, hate the game" isn't valid, because those players exist regardless of the game. "don't hate the player, hate the game" implies that there could be such a thing as a different game, and changing that would resolve the complaint. I am saying there is no game that doesn't still have the exact same problem, and so it makes no sense to "don't hate the player, hate the game". Nowhere in that expression does it say, or even imply, that everyone is one of those players. What good does this ridiculous hyperbolic jump from no one to everyone do? "don't hate the player, hate the game" is just some deflecting bs that douchebags say to excuse themselves for being exactly that sort of user parasite, or by merely hapless dupes.
  - lazide 4y ago
    Because everything is (arguably) a game. Everyone just has different strategies. For some, it’s ‘pretend it’s not being gamed, be honest, forthright’, etc. For others, it’s ‘game the shit out of it’ (Aka those derided as ‘players’). But everyone is playing, even if they don’t realize it (under this model). Literally anything where there is some competition or limited supply it’s the case, and that is most things in life. That’s work, housing, traffic, dating/marriage, you name it

lazide 4y ago

But what is the point you’re making here? Hate everyone? Who should we not hate then?

Brian_K_White 4y ago
The point I'm making is exactly the point I wrote. I could only repeat myself with practically tgr same words to restate it. I explicitly said there are some people who exhibit these qualities, not that all, or even most do. The point was, as I said already, that "don't hate the player, hate the game" isn't valid, because those players exist regardless of the game. "don't hate the player, hate the game" implies that there could be such a thing as a different game, and changing that would resolve the complaint. I am saying there is no game that doesn't still have the exact same problem, and so it makes no sense to "don't hate the player, hate the game". Nowhere in that expression does it say, or even imply, that everyone is one of those players. What good does this ridiculous hyperbolic jump from no one to everyone do? "don't hate the player, hate the game" is just some deflecting bs that douchebags say to excuse themselves for being exactly that sort of user parasite, or by merely hapless dupes.
- lazide 4y ago
  Because everything is (arguably) a game. Everyone just has different strategies. For some, it’s ‘pretend it’s not being gamed, be honest, forthright’, etc. For others, it’s ‘game the shit out of it’ (Aka those derided as ‘players’). But everyone is playing, even if they don’t realize it (under this model). Literally anything where there is some competition or limited supply it’s the case, and that is most things in life. That’s work, housing, traffic, dating/marriage, you name it