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My rule of thumb is to NEVER use a Microsoft account for anything unless I’m forced to. And then I’ll create a brand new account for each use case. I so regret

My rule of thumb is to NEVER use a Microsoft account for anything unless I’m forced to. And then I’ll create a brand new account for each use case. I so regret converting my Minecraft account. The old Mojang stuff was so much more reliable.

oefnak 4y ago
You didn't have a choice, right?
- Liquix 4y ago
  Correct. If you didn't mind having a Mojang account (small, indie, Swedish company; respectable privacy policy) but would prefer not to create a Microsoft account, your money is as good as gone and there is no way to play the game officially.
  - asddubs 4y ago
    if you just want to play offline, the prism launcher still lets you authenticate using the old mojang accounts. (which is not to contradict your claim, as it's not an official launcher). I held out for a really long time, but a friend wanted to play minecraft with me so I finally caved. If they ask me to add a phone number I'll probably just abandon the account though, and look into piracy of the game I purchased.
    - skowalak 4y ago
      After converting, my brand new MS account got locked for 'suspicious activity' within minutes. To get back access to the game I had paid money for, I had to... you guessed it: add my phone number. Really makes me consider just not playing anymore.
      - xigoi 4y ago
        Try Minetest instead. I particularly like the Mesecraft game for it.
zamnos 4y ago
> The old Mojang stuff was so much more reliable. In what way? Does the microsoft.com login system go down often?
- Alphaeus 4y ago
  The Mojang accounts weren't great for security. No 2FA or anything (just security questions), and if you lost your account / it was stolen, you were pretty stuffed. The only way to recover it was to present the transaction ID of your purchase of the game to support, which most people don't have and you were never told to keep. I saw lots of people get permanently locked out of their accounts. I guess it also doesn't make sense for them to maintain a parallel login system when the Microsoft one gets (presumably) millions of dollars of investment every year. Though Microsoft accounts are more complicated to use, with configuration being split across Microsoft, Xbox, and Mojang/Minecraft itself. And it seems they like locking people out for opaque reasons.
  - simion314 4y ago
    >The Mojang accounts weren't great for security. No 2FA or anything (just security questions), and if you lost your account / it was stolen, you were pretty stuffed. The only way to recover it was to present the transaction ID of your purchase of the game to support, which most people don't have and you were never told to keep. I saw lots of people get permanently locked out of their accounts. It was in fact super easy to just search my email Inbox for emails from Mojand and find the proof or purchase. With MS I have 3 fucking accounts and not by choice, they bought Skype and Mojand and forced me into their super shitty system, I spent 30 minutes 1 year ago to migrate the Minecrtaft accoutn and more then 30 minutes a few weeks back to login back into Minecraft because I needed to detective my way to figureout what Microsoft account they connected to my Mojang purchase. I hope in a few years someone leaks what greedy motives were behind this forced migrations, probably to sell more shit.
  - LightHugger 4y ago
    The mojang accounts were superior in every way in terms of security. Hahha, microsoft is a huge attack surface. And with microsoft, you also need to secure your account against microsoft itself, which isn't easy, they will randomly extort previously unknown personal information like phone numbers to access your account. If you only have 1 number, and its linked to a different account, you just lost your account. I don't understand why people think a microsoft account could ever possibly be more secure.
asplake 4y ago
For that reason I refuse Teams calls that require a login

oefnak 4y ago

You didn't have a choice, right?

Liquix 4y ago
Correct. If you didn't mind having a Mojang account (small, indie, Swedish company; respectable privacy policy) but would prefer not to create a Microsoft account, your money is as good as gone and there is no way to play the game officially.
- asddubs 4y ago
  if you just want to play offline, the prism launcher still lets you authenticate using the old mojang accounts. (which is not to contradict your claim, as it's not an official launcher). I held out for a really long time, but a friend wanted to play minecraft with me so I finally caved. If they ask me to add a phone number I'll probably just abandon the account though, and look into piracy of the game I purchased.
  - skowalak 4y ago
    After converting, my brand new MS account got locked for 'suspicious activity' within minutes. To get back access to the game I had paid money for, I had to... you guessed it: add my phone number. Really makes me consider just not playing anymore.
    - xigoi 4y ago
      Try Minetest instead. I particularly like the Mesecraft game for it.

zamnos 4y ago

> The old Mojang stuff was so much more reliable. In what way? Does the microsoft.com login system go down often?

Alphaeus 4y ago
The Mojang accounts weren't great for security. No 2FA or anything (just security questions), and if you lost your account / it was stolen, you were pretty stuffed. The only way to recover it was to present the transaction ID of your purchase of the game to support, which most people don't have and you were never told to keep. I saw lots of people get permanently locked out of their accounts. I guess it also doesn't make sense for them to maintain a parallel login system when the Microsoft one gets (presumably) millions of dollars of investment every year. Though Microsoft accounts are more complicated to use, with configuration being split across Microsoft, Xbox, and Mojang/Minecraft itself. And it seems they like locking people out for opaque reasons.
- simion314 4y ago
  >The Mojang accounts weren't great for security. No 2FA or anything (just security questions), and if you lost your account / it was stolen, you were pretty stuffed. The only way to recover it was to present the transaction ID of your purchase of the game to support, which most people don't have and you were never told to keep. I saw lots of people get permanently locked out of their accounts. It was in fact super easy to just search my email Inbox for emails from Mojand and find the proof or purchase. With MS I have 3 fucking accounts and not by choice, they bought Skype and Mojand and forced me into their super shitty system, I spent 30 minutes 1 year ago to migrate the Minecrtaft accoutn and more then 30 minutes a few weeks back to login back into Minecraft because I needed to detective my way to figureout what Microsoft account they connected to my Mojang purchase. I hope in a few years someone leaks what greedy motives were behind this forced migrations, probably to sell more shit.
- LightHugger 4y ago
  The mojang accounts were superior in every way in terms of security. Hahha, microsoft is a huge attack surface. And with microsoft, you also need to secure your account against microsoft itself, which isn't easy, they will randomly extort previously unknown personal information like phone numbers to access your account. If you only have 1 number, and its linked to a different account, you just lost your account. I don't understand why people think a microsoft account could ever possibly be more secure.

asplake 4y ago

For that reason I refuse Teams calls that require a login