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This seems to try and give people a way out which is the exact opposite of what is needed to deal with this. There has to be a commitment and a no-way-out appro

This seems to try and give people a way out which is the exact opposite of what is needed to deal with this. There has to be a commitment and a no-way-out approach. It quite literally can be life or death. If individuals are not responsible for their own health then who is? How hard is it to eat chicken/tofu + veggies for one meal a day and cut out pizza/pasta/rice/wheat?

hirvi74 4y ago
> If individuals are not responsible for their own health then who is? I view the issue much like burnout. Who's fault is it for burnout? The employee or the employer? To be honest, just like obesity, it's probably a bit of both (not claiming employers are causing obesity). > How hard is it to eat chicken/tofu + veggies for one meal a day and cut out pizza/pasta/rice/wheat? It depends on how much one earns. It's a lot easier for someone making a HS salary than minimum wage which in my state, is still $7.25/hr. I am not saying individuals are not responsible, but I do not agree that individuals are solely responsible. There are other factors at play. I think we have a societal issue -- people are overworked and overstressed on average. Hell, depending on the source of information, around 20%-25% of Americans are prescribed psychiatric medication. That signals we are facing systemic issue within our society. Why are people so depressed, anxious, and or flying off the rails? Another issue is that our society has become more sedentary as a whole -- especially in the work place. I imagine there were much less sitting/standing at a desk all day in 1923 than there is in 2023 on average. I think a lot of people were able to fulfill their minimum exercise needs without much effort -- be it factory work, more walkable cities, etc.. Is the increase in sedentary jobs, lack of walkable cities, etc.. an individual's fault or society's? Maybe I am just talking out of my ass, but I would like to see any kind of research, if it even exists, on if there is a correlation between hours worked in a sedentary job and obesity.

hirvi74 4y ago

> If individuals are not responsible for their own health then who is? I view the issue much like burnout. Who's fault is it for burnout? The employee or the employer? To be honest, just like obesity, it's probably a bit of both (not claiming employers are causing obesity). > How hard is it to eat chicken/tofu + veggies for one meal a day and cut out pizza/pasta/rice/wheat? It depends on how much one earns. It's a lot easier for someone making a HS salary than minimum wage which in my state, is still $7.25/hr. I am not saying individuals are not responsible, but I do not agree that individuals are solely responsible. There are other factors at play. I think we have a societal issue -- people are overworked and overstressed on average. Hell, depending on the source of information, around 20%-25% of Americans are prescribed psychiatric medication. That signals we are facing systemic issue within our society. Why are people so depressed, anxious, and or flying off the rails? Another issue is that our society has become more sedentary as a whole -- especially in the work place. I imagine there were much less sitting/standing at a desk all day in 1923 than there is in 2023 on average. I think a lot of people were able to fulfill their minimum exercise needs without much effort -- be it factory work, more walkable cities, etc.. Is the increase in sedentary jobs, lack of walkable cities, etc.. an individual's fault or society's? Maybe I am just talking out of my ass, but I would like to see any kind of research, if it even exists, on if there is a correlation between hours worked in a sedentary job and obesity.