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No, there’s intention to monetize.
by pancrufty 4y ago
No, there’s intention to monetize.
- wpietri 4y agoYeah, if you take $7m from YC and Kleiner Perkins, it is definitely not a charity operation: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/oven/company_financials https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/oven/company_financi... It's a little concerning to me when something's commercial nature is so far in the background like this. I guess I've had too many years of, "Surprise, our business model is you!"
- paxys 4y agoWhat's the surprise exactly? Deno works the same way, as do hundreds of other companies that give out an open source version of their software for free and provide hosting and support as paid services.
- wpietri 4y agoOne difference is that Deno, and presumably those hundreds of other companies, have a pricing page. Whereas bun could easily be mistaken for just another open-source project.
- paxys 4y agoThey don't have a pricing page because there is nothing to price yet.
- doodlesdev 4y agoThat's exactly their point.
- paxys 4y agoWhat's their point? That they should not be open source? Or should not be allowed to ever launch a paid product? Or be forced to add a pricing page that...goes nowhere?
- wpietri 4y agoMy point is that they could be transparent about the fact that they're collecting users along the way to extracting money from them. They chose not to. That's concerning to me. Possible explanations include "they have no idea what they're doing" and "they know exactly what they're doing but think people won't like it". As the rest of your hyperventilation, no, none of those are my points, and I think you were smart enough to figure that out without me having to say so.
- pancrufty 4y ago> collecting users along the way to extracting money from them Can you listen to yourself? When was the last time you paid Node or npm inc? Projects have the absolute right to monetize without having to start that way. You can use bun without signing up, there’s no data, there’s no registration. There are only entitled users.
- wpietri 4y agoI'm not a JS person, so never. But the first has a foundation, and the second has a transparent revenue model. Bringing up rights is a straw man. They have a right to conceal their plans. I have a right to criticize them for it. You have the right to do defensive, awkward, unpaid PR for people who have millions of dollars. All rights are being honored here.
- doodlesdev 4y agoThe point is that Deno has already a plan to monetize and they haven't, which puts a lot of doubt into if they will ever manage to and whether that will affect existing projects which rely on the runtime.
- ilrwbwrkhv 4y agoWow didn't know they took a loan of $7 million dollars. That is an insane amount for a runtime without market adoption. Another one of those 2021 VC play I guess.