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> Not buying ice cream, cookies, chips, added sugar foods, and beer is necessary. Do not eat out, and do not let unhealthy foods into the house. And do not shop

> Not buying ice cream, cookies, chips, added sugar foods, and beer is necessary. Do not eat out, and do not let unhealthy foods into the house. And do not shop while hungry. I've done all that and more for 10 years and still gained 100lbs. Exercise didn't help, just made it worse. Yes, I've gained 20-30lbs (not muscle, I wish!) in a few months by exercising more. I've failed to lose fat doing 10 months of 4x per week intense exercise. It just doesn't work. Then I just lost almost 50lbs with some "crazy" diet experiment by eating as much heavy whipping cream as I feel like. No working out at all. These mainstream theories of "just eat healthy" simply don't work for obese people.

tekla 4y ago
I lost 150 pounds in 1.5 years doing literally nothing different but eating less, and kept it off for the next 15 (present) You own failings are due to you lying to yourself about how much you eat. Humans are not able to break the laws of thermodynamics. If you consume less than you burn, you will lose weight no matter what.
- exfatloss 4y ago
  > You own failings are due to you lying to yourself about how much you eat. False. How much you eat is only indirectly related to energy partitioning, which decides if that food energy will be burned or stored. Trust me, I've tried more than you and am more obsessed with the topic :) You probably decreased carbs and PUFAs significantly as part of "eating less." > Humans are not able to break the laws of thermodynamics. If you consume less than you burn, you will lose weight no matter what. Ah, the ol' accounting tautology :) Of course you're right, but of course it has nothing to do with the topic. "Being in an energy deficit" does not necessarily come from "eating less" or "exercising more" and eating less or exercising more do not guarantee a deficit. Turns out the human body is full of miraculous biochemistry, it's not an oven.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  > I lost 150 pounds Ah, that explains it. You had a serious moral failing and you corrected it.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
Sorry to hear that, and while I obviously cannot speak for your experiences, the lifestyles of overweight people I am familiar with does not lead me to believe they are making the necessary sacrifices to be a healthy weight.

tekla 4y ago

I lost 150 pounds in 1.5 years doing literally nothing different but eating less, and kept it off for the next 15 (present) You own failings are due to you lying to yourself about how much you eat. Humans are not able to break the laws of thermodynamics. If you consume less than you burn, you will lose weight no matter what.

exfatloss 4y ago
> You own failings are due to you lying to yourself about how much you eat. False. How much you eat is only indirectly related to energy partitioning, which decides if that food energy will be burned or stored. Trust me, I've tried more than you and am more obsessed with the topic :) You probably decreased carbs and PUFAs significantly as part of "eating less." > Humans are not able to break the laws of thermodynamics. If you consume less than you burn, you will lose weight no matter what. Ah, the ol' accounting tautology :) Of course you're right, but of course it has nothing to do with the topic. "Being in an energy deficit" does not necessarily come from "eating less" or "exercising more" and eating less or exercising more do not guarantee a deficit. Turns out the human body is full of miraculous biochemistry, it's not an oven.
rootusrootus 4y ago
> I lost 150 pounds Ah, that explains it. You had a serious moral failing and you corrected it.

lotsofpulp 4y ago

Sorry to hear that, and while I obviously cannot speak for your experiences, the lifestyles of overweight people I am familiar with does not lead me to believe they are making the necessary sacrifices to be a healthy weight.