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I like using keyboard shortcuts. It’s just that my 42 year old brain doesn’t have the ability to memorize so many of them. If Apple is going to give me a GUI, t

I like using keyboard shortcuts. It’s just that my 42 year old brain doesn’t have the ability to memorize so many of them. If Apple is going to give me a GUI, then that GUI shouldn’t behave in ways that surprise people who haven’t been using a Mac their entire lives. Side rant: why doesn’t iOS let me close all apps without swiping up on them individually? Seems like an actually user-hostile design choice. And I say that as someone who plans to never use Android again.

voltaireodactyl 4y ago
A common tip for folks who don’t use mac much is to go into System Settings, Keyboard, and swap the Command and Control modifiers. Thereafter most common shortcuts are identical to windows muscle memory.
pwinnski 4y ago
They do not want you to swipe-close all apps, and used to very publicly ask people to stop doing that every year during iOS keynotes. They want you to trust iOS to swap apps in and out as needed for performance, and all you're doing by forcing the apps to close is ensuring slower startup next time you use them, since they'll be launched from scratch rather than restored from cache. So this is not a "missing feature," it is you using the system in a way they don't support. They won't likely add the feature you want, but you could consider leave the apps alone, and only swipe-closing them if you want privacy.
musicale 4y ago
Those keyboard shortcuts are fairly discoverable because they are actually menu item shortcuts: Application>Quit and File>Close. The idea with macOS is that the menu bar is easy to get to (being at the top of the screen) and has most of the commands you need. It's also fairly standardized across apps. Originally Mac apps didn't even have many keyboard shortcuts because Apple wanted to encourage app designers (and users) to make use of the mouse and menu bar, rather than just recreating something like Wordstar. I think user tests also showed that the menu bar at the top of the screen was fairly quick to use and not drastically worse than keyboard shortcuts. I will admit that placing "Close Window" under the File menu in Safari (for example) rather than the Window menu seems counterintuitive. The reason is that Mac apps are traditionally document-based, the File menu deals with document operations, such as closing the current document. I believe it also predates standardization of the Window menu. Unfortunately Safari (and some other apps) aren't exactly document-based, yet they share the document-style menu layout for UI consistency. Personally I wouldn't mind duplicating Close in both the File and Window menus.

voltaireodactyl 4y ago

A common tip for folks who don’t use mac much is to go into System Settings, Keyboard, and swap the Command and Control modifiers. Thereafter most common shortcuts are identical to windows muscle memory.

pwinnski 4y ago

They do not want you to swipe-close all apps, and used to very publicly ask people to stop doing that every year during iOS keynotes. They want you to trust iOS to swap apps in and out as needed for performance, and all you're doing by forcing the apps to close is ensuring slower startup next time you use them, since they'll be launched from scratch rather than restored from cache. So this is not a "missing feature," it is you using the system in a way they don't support. They won't likely add the feature you want, but you could consider leave the apps alone, and only swipe-closing them if you want privacy.

musicale 4y ago

Those keyboard shortcuts are fairly discoverable because they are actually menu item shortcuts: Application>Quit and File>Close. The idea with macOS is that the menu bar is easy to get to (being at the top of the screen) and has most of the commands you need. It's also fairly standardized across apps. Originally Mac apps didn't even have many keyboard shortcuts because Apple wanted to encourage app designers (and users) to make use of the mouse and menu bar, rather than just recreating something like Wordstar. I think user tests also showed that the menu bar at the top of the screen was fairly quick to use and not drastically worse than keyboard shortcuts. I will admit that placing "Close Window" under the File menu in Safari (for example) rather than the Window menu seems counterintuitive. The reason is that Mac apps are traditionally document-based, the File menu deals with document operations, such as closing the current document. I believe it also predates standardization of the Window menu. Unfortunately Safari (and some other apps) aren't exactly document-based, yet they share the document-style menu layout for UI consistency. Personally I wouldn't mind duplicating Close in both the File and Window menus.