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Will AGI tell us if there is aliens or not? Are we really alone in the universe?

by appleaday1 4y ago

optymizer 4y ago
If we manufacture AGI robots and send them to Mars, we will not be alone in the Universe.
- astrange 4y ago
  We aren't making progress on anything that'd lead to "AGI robots". Online AI analysis all seems to come from lesswrong posters who think computers are magic and can do anything though.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    We are not? I think you're making a number of really tiny boxes that limit intelligence to the things that humans can do, and the limitations they have. Meanwhile I'm watching more and more standalone humanlike robots with multiple degrees of freedoms being developed. The robot unit itself doesn't even AGI/full capabilities as long as it can talk to a 'brain' somewhere close enough it has low latency.
    - astrange 4y ago
      The main source of that hype Boston Dynamics makes YouTube videos more than robots really. We don't have battery technology good enough to make a robot operate independently, which it'd still need to do even if you kept the brain somewhere else. But the "brain" technology doesn't exist either; language models can't pilot robots.
      - famouswaffles 4y ago
        LLMs can pilot robots just fine lol https://innermonologue.github.io/ https://innermonologue.github.io/ https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/autonomous-systems-group-robotics/articles/chatgpt-for-robotics/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/autonomous-sy...
marginalia_nu 4y ago
If it's anything like our current LLMs, it will improvise an answer with great certainty.
pixl97 4y ago
Why would it be able to? At best think of AGI as everyone working together, and everyone working together has not found any evidence of aliens. Could AGI and automated factories build better detectors, yes. Could lots of humans with better funding built better detectors, yes. But at the end of the day the hard work of actually detecting signs of alien life will be the only way to answer this question with a yes.

Will AGI tell us if there is aliens or not? Are we really alone in the universe?

optymizer 4y ago

If we manufacture AGI robots and send them to Mars, we will not be alone in the Universe.

astrange 4y ago
We aren't making progress on anything that'd lead to "AGI robots". Online AI analysis all seems to come from lesswrong posters who think computers are magic and can do anything though.
- pixl97 4y ago
  We are not? I think you're making a number of really tiny boxes that limit intelligence to the things that humans can do, and the limitations they have. Meanwhile I'm watching more and more standalone humanlike robots with multiple degrees of freedoms being developed. The robot unit itself doesn't even AGI/full capabilities as long as it can talk to a 'brain' somewhere close enough it has low latency.
  - astrange 4y ago
    The main source of that hype Boston Dynamics makes YouTube videos more than robots really. We don't have battery technology good enough to make a robot operate independently, which it'd still need to do even if you kept the brain somewhere else. But the "brain" technology doesn't exist either; language models can't pilot robots.
    - famouswaffles 4y ago
      LLMs can pilot robots just fine lol https://innermonologue.github.io/ https://innermonologue.github.io/ https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/autonomous-systems-group-robotics/articles/chatgpt-for-robotics/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/autonomous-sy...

marginalia_nu 4y ago

If it's anything like our current LLMs, it will improvise an answer with great certainty.

pixl97 4y ago

Why would it be able to? At best think of AGI as everyone working together, and everyone working together has not found any evidence of aliens. Could AGI and automated factories build better detectors, yes. Could lots of humans with better funding built better detectors, yes. But at the end of the day the hard work of actually detecting signs of alien life will be the only way to answer this question with a yes.