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While I agree that Germany can and should do more, it is worth pointing out that France, Spain, and Italy are all contributing less than Germany. And Switzerla

While I agree that Germany can and should do more, it is worth pointing out that France, Spain, and Italy are all contributing less than Germany. And Switzerland's level of aid is frankly appalling (too much money to be made in laundering Russian money apparently). https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

inigoalonso 4y ago
True. They also have smaller economies and are arguably less responsible for Russia's strengthening. They are also less vulnerable in case of military escalation.
hef19898 4y ago
Plus, I don't get it why everybody thinks that it was Germany's, or any other single NATo countries, decision what ang how much aid Ukraine was getting when. First was a bunch former Warsaw pact gear, then NATO decided to send top notch hardware, namely Abrams Leopard and Challenger 2s. So far, the whole miltary NATO aid for Ukraine, which started years before the actual invasion, seems to work out rather well. Nothing of that has anything to do with layoffs, that economic crisis was bound to happen after COVID and decades of free money.
honkler 4y ago
Don't pay heed to the commenter above you. They have been guilt tripping Germany since decades. Germany would have been better off if it had kept it's own interest first, by drawing redlines around American intentions of taking out nordstream. And I'm not even German, rather an American. But I do keep my eyes and mind open and realize what's going on. Why don't Germans do the same? Hard to think this is the civilization of great thinkers.
- throwanem 4y ago
  You use English the way only a German ever does. Better not to lie at all than to prove so incompetent in the attempt.
  - honkler 4y ago
    What do I gain by lying? I could say I'm a german who stands against American Imperialism, and it would only make my argument stronger.
    - throwanem 4y ago
      What do you gain by lying?

inigoalonso 4y ago

True. They also have smaller economies and are arguably less responsible for Russia's strengthening. They are also less vulnerable in case of military escalation.

hef19898 4y ago

Plus, I don't get it why everybody thinks that it was Germany's, or any other single NATo countries, decision what ang how much aid Ukraine was getting when. First was a bunch former Warsaw pact gear, then NATO decided to send top notch hardware, namely Abrams Leopard and Challenger 2s. So far, the whole miltary NATO aid for Ukraine, which started years before the actual invasion, seems to work out rather well. Nothing of that has anything to do with layoffs, that economic crisis was bound to happen after COVID and decades of free money.

honkler 4y ago

Don't pay heed to the commenter above you. They have been guilt tripping Germany since decades. Germany would have been better off if it had kept it's own interest first, by drawing redlines around American intentions of taking out nordstream. And I'm not even German, rather an American. But I do keep my eyes and mind open and realize what's going on. Why don't Germans do the same? Hard to think this is the civilization of great thinkers.

throwanem 4y ago
You use English the way only a German ever does. Better not to lie at all than to prove so incompetent in the attempt.
- honkler 4y ago
  What do I gain by lying? I could say I'm a german who stands against American Imperialism, and it would only make my argument stronger.
  - throwanem 4y ago
    What do you gain by lying?