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I don't think we really need more LotR. I'd prefer studios pick up other fantasy properties. The lack of a good Earthsea adaptation is kind of depressing and i

I don't think we really need more LotR. I'd prefer studios pick up other fantasy properties. The lack of a good Earthsea adaptation is kind of depressing and it makes more sense than ever to take another crack at it given Hollywood's newfound commitment to racial diversity in media.

Loughla 4y ago
It's the same for sci-fi. We have a million Star Wars series and movies, a billion Star Trek series and movies. But we can't get anything else that is out there that could be so much better. Dune was a good start, but really, each of those books is a series on its own. The Culture series by Iain Banks would be amazing, especially considering that the world is way more accepting of race/ethnicity, sexuality, and gender issues than it has been historically (not even to mention that we could use some hope for the future in our media instead of dystopia constantly). But instead we get baby yoda series 3. (for reference, I do like The Mandalorian, I just felt like being snarky).
- autophagian 4y ago
  I would give up my neural lace for a well made Culture adaptation, but I do worry that any adaption wouldn't do much justice to the politics in the book except in the most shallow way possible. Still, though, a dose of utopianism would be nice.
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  > We have a million Star Wars series and movies Star Wars is an interesting case. It went from a franchise making money on every movie to a mix of ok movies and flops. I know a lot of people (including me) just tuned out with the latest trilogy.
  - tomohawk 4y ago
    Correlated with Kathleen Kennedy being put in charge of the property. The franchise has flopped so badly that they have not only had to cancel movies, they've had many big name directors pull out because they don't want to be associated with the ongoing carnage. The only bright spot left is what Filoni or Favreau are doing.
  - duped 4y ago
    Only one Star Wars film "flopped" and that was Solo. The sequel trilogy each grossed more than a billion dollars at the box office. The films and series that have been produced since the Disney acquisition a decade ago have created an entire new generation of fans and spawned theme parks, hotels, cruises, merchandise, and spinoffs... it's been an amazing success for the franchise.
- D13Fd 4y ago
  Blade Runner, Avatar, Ender's Game (which sucked, but still), Aliens movies/Predator movies, Edge of Tomorrow, Matrix movies, Star Trek movies. There are plenty of "not Star Wars" examples out there, some of which are extremely successful.
duped 4y ago
We could have more of Middle Earth since there's plenty of material. The problem is TV/Film written and directed by committee that has to dance around the stories that Tolkien actually wrote in the world as he built it since his estate has never sold the rights to the Silmarillion and the History of Middle Earth. That's really why the Rings of Power sucked. The company wanted 10 hours of content and paid nearly half a billion dollars for it. But budget can't create story and characters where there are none and the writers have to work around the appendices of a book. It's the same fundamental problem as the Hobbit trilogy. That could have been a fantastic 100 minute film.
- COGlory 4y ago
  Not having license to the Silmarillion isn't why Rings of Power sucked. Rings of Power sucked because the world was not believable, the plots were not believable, the characters were not believable, the societies were not believable, and at every possible opportunity, the writing team went for what they thought would be cool or flashy instead of realistic and believable. https://acoup.blog/2022/12/16/collections-why-rings-of-powers-middle-earth-feels-flat/ https://acoup.blog/2022/12/16/collections-why-rings-of-power...
  - duped 4y ago
    That's exactly my point... the writing was bad. They didn't have enough content to stretch out, and had to fill it.
- hcrisp 4y ago
  A film trilogy made from one children's book? Certainly felt "thin and stretched out, like butter spread over too much jam".
- b1c1jones 4y ago
  Earthsea also has plenty of material. It may be too refined for Hollywood, LeGuin's writing is on a whole different level. The only decent adaptation was "Lathe of Heaven" (1980).
josteink 4y ago
> I don't think we really need more LotR. Especially if it’s being made “for a modern audience”. Sic. If those phrases are used during the promotion, that’s a 100% guarantee I won’t be watching something.

Loughla 4y ago

It's the same for sci-fi. We have a million Star Wars series and movies, a billion Star Trek series and movies. But we can't get anything else that is out there that could be so much better. Dune was a good start, but really, each of those books is a series on its own. The Culture series by Iain Banks would be amazing, especially considering that the world is way more accepting of race/ethnicity, sexuality, and gender issues than it has been historically (not even to mention that we could use some hope for the future in our media instead of dystopia constantly). But instead we get baby yoda series 3. (for reference, I do like The Mandalorian, I just felt like being snarky).

autophagian 4y ago
I would give up my neural lace for a well made Culture adaptation, but I do worry that any adaption wouldn't do much justice to the politics in the book except in the most shallow way possible. Still, though, a dose of utopianism would be nice.
908B64B197 4y ago
> We have a million Star Wars series and movies Star Wars is an interesting case. It went from a franchise making money on every movie to a mix of ok movies and flops. I know a lot of people (including me) just tuned out with the latest trilogy.
- tomohawk 4y ago
  Correlated with Kathleen Kennedy being put in charge of the property. The franchise has flopped so badly that they have not only had to cancel movies, they've had many big name directors pull out because they don't want to be associated with the ongoing carnage. The only bright spot left is what Filoni or Favreau are doing.
- duped 4y ago
  Only one Star Wars film "flopped" and that was Solo. The sequel trilogy each grossed more than a billion dollars at the box office. The films and series that have been produced since the Disney acquisition a decade ago have created an entire new generation of fans and spawned theme parks, hotels, cruises, merchandise, and spinoffs... it's been an amazing success for the franchise.
D13Fd 4y ago
Blade Runner, Avatar, Ender's Game (which sucked, but still), Aliens movies/Predator movies, Edge of Tomorrow, Matrix movies, Star Trek movies. There are plenty of "not Star Wars" examples out there, some of which are extremely successful.

duped 4y ago

We could have more of Middle Earth since there's plenty of material. The problem is TV/Film written and directed by committee that has to dance around the stories that Tolkien actually wrote in the world as he built it since his estate has never sold the rights to the Silmarillion and the History of Middle Earth. That's really why the Rings of Power sucked. The company wanted 10 hours of content and paid nearly half a billion dollars for it. But budget can't create story and characters where there are none and the writers have to work around the appendices of a book. It's the same fundamental problem as the Hobbit trilogy. That could have been a fantastic 100 minute film.

COGlory 4y ago
Not having license to the Silmarillion isn't why Rings of Power sucked. Rings of Power sucked because the world was not believable, the plots were not believable, the characters were not believable, the societies were not believable, and at every possible opportunity, the writing team went for what they thought would be cool or flashy instead of realistic and believable. https://acoup.blog/2022/12/16/collections-why-rings-of-powers-middle-earth-feels-flat/ https://acoup.blog/2022/12/16/collections-why-rings-of-power...
- duped 4y ago
  That's exactly my point... the writing was bad. They didn't have enough content to stretch out, and had to fill it.
hcrisp 4y ago
A film trilogy made from one children's book? Certainly felt "thin and stretched out, like butter spread over too much jam".
b1c1jones 4y ago
Earthsea also has plenty of material. It may be too refined for Hollywood, LeGuin's writing is on a whole different level. The only decent adaptation was "Lathe of Heaven" (1980).

josteink 4y ago

> I don't think we really need more LotR. Especially if it’s being made “for a modern audience”. Sic. If those phrases are used during the promotion, that’s a 100% guarantee I won’t be watching something.