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And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. I pay for YouTube Premium. Creators get paid and I don't watch ads. We have a family plan so t

by pier25 4y ago

And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. I pay for YouTube Premium. Creators get paid and I don't watch ads. We have a family plan so this applies to the whole family. We spend way more time watching YouTube than Netflix but pay for both.

j-bos 4y ago
Echoing this, a YT premium subscription feels like a proper transaction.
edgyquant 4y ago
Nearly all of them shill some product in there video. They get paid.
- Tepix 4y ago
  Do you want to encourage this behaviour versus those who merely rely on what YouTube pays them?
  - 998244353 4y ago
    If I had to choose between seeing the ads by YouTube and seeing the creator's own ad, I'd choose the second. I don't really know why. But if I turn off ad blocking, YouTube's own ads are way more obnoxious and intrusive. Maybe it's because every advertiser has figured out they need to cram as much shit into a 5-second segment? Or maybe it is because seeing an ad at the very beginning is much more psychologically disruptive (or if the YT ad is in the middle, it is usually inserted without any regard to the video, even breaking up sentences).
- judge2020 4y ago
  Even with sponsors, adsense is always an incredible driver of revenue[0,1] especially as more and more people (especially in the US) have an iPhone which prevents any ad blockers within the YouTube app. And YouTube Premium views pay out a lot more per view than any ad-supported view[2,3]. 0: https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=20 https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/16094682622194032... 1: https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20 https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=2... 2: https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20 https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=2... 3: https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1513177490730061829?s=20 https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1513177490730061829?s=2...
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
> And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. They could ask the users to pay for the content they produce and measure how many microseconds would pass before they switch to someone else's videos. It's an option. I don't want to watch ads, I skip sponsored sections, I feel no guilt about it, if they can't monetize enough and have to shutdown operations, I can survive without that content. What would you say if I was dancing in the middle of the streets asking for money and blaming people who don't give any because "I am not being paid for the show I've put up, you ingrates!"? Nobody asked or forced content creators to upload their content on YT.
- PixelForg 4y ago
  Your analogy is only correct if you watch content that's recommended to you, but many of us actively watch YouTubers we have subscribed to, in that case it makes sense for the creators to get paid then. Edit - Edited the comment a bit
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    95% of what I watch on YouTube is from YouTubers I actively subscribe to. I rarely use YouTube's recommendations (in no small part because YouTube is bad at recommendations for me). I'm very happy to support the ones I follow who are doing it for a living. For most, I consider their cut of my Premium fee to be sufficient. For some, I go beyond by giving them money through Patreon and the like, or buying their swag.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    of course it is fair to be paid, they should be paid regardless by YouTube though, not by me watching the ADS. If I block the ads, YouTube should pay them nonetheless. Because I chose to block the ADS, not the content creator. But it's not my responsibility to watch the ADS or the sponsored content. The content has been uploaded as "public & free" and I watch it for free.
    - maximus-decimus 4y ago
ahtihn 4y ago
I don't really care that creators don't get paid. Youtube was better when no one was getting paid.
JohnFen 4y ago
> And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. Let's be honest here -- creators aren't really getting paid any meaningful amount of money from those ads anymore. Those days are long gone. That's why all YouTubers who care about revenue do their own ads as part of their own content, and/or use things like Patreon. There's only one reason why YouTubers even bother to allow YouTube to "monetize" them -- if they don't, YouTube won't recommend them to other viewers. I also pay for Premium, though.
- Panzer04 4y ago
  This is untrue afaik. Even big channels with big self-sponsorship (eg Linus Tech Tips) still make (pulling out of thin air here) something like 20-30%+ of their revenue from native google ads.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    As I understand it, the big channels do make decent money from their cut of Google's ads. But the vast majority of YouTubers aren't big. I think it's a percentage game.
titaniumtown 4y ago
Youtube ad revenue is a very small part of income made from creating Youtube videos. Most people who makes videos take up sponsorships which are way more lucrative.

by pier25 4y ago

j-bos 4y ago

Echoing this, a YT premium subscription feels like a proper transaction.

edgyquant 4y ago

Nearly all of them shill some product in there video. They get paid.

Tepix 4y ago
Do you want to encourage this behaviour versus those who merely rely on what YouTube pays them?
- 998244353 4y ago
  If I had to choose between seeing the ads by YouTube and seeing the creator's own ad, I'd choose the second. I don't really know why. But if I turn off ad blocking, YouTube's own ads are way more obnoxious and intrusive. Maybe it's because every advertiser has figured out they need to cram as much shit into a 5-second segment? Or maybe it is because seeing an ad at the very beginning is much more psychologically disruptive (or if the YT ad is in the middle, it is usually inserted without any regard to the video, even breaking up sentences).
judge2020 4y ago
Even with sponsors, adsense is always an incredible driver of revenue[0,1] especially as more and more people (especially in the US) have an iPhone which prevents any ad blockers within the YouTube app. And YouTube Premium views pay out a lot more per view than any ad-supported view[2,3]. 0: https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=20 https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/16094682622194032... 1: https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20 https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=2... 2: https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20 https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=2... 3: https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1513177490730061829?s=20 https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1513177490730061829?s=2...

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

> And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. They could ask the users to pay for the content they produce and measure how many microseconds would pass before they switch to someone else's videos. It's an option. I don't want to watch ads, I skip sponsored sections, I feel no guilt about it, if they can't monetize enough and have to shutdown operations, I can survive without that content. What would you say if I was dancing in the middle of the streets asking for money and blaming people who don't give any because "I am not being paid for the show I've put up, you ingrates!"? Nobody asked or forced content creators to upload their content on YT.

PixelForg 4y ago
Your analogy is only correct if you watch content that's recommended to you, but many of us actively watch YouTubers we have subscribed to, in that case it makes sense for the creators to get paid then. Edit - Edited the comment a bit
- JohnFen 4y ago
  95% of what I watch on YouTube is from YouTubers I actively subscribe to. I rarely use YouTube's recommendations (in no small part because YouTube is bad at recommendations for me). I'm very happy to support the ones I follow who are doing it for a living. For most, I consider their cut of my Premium fee to be sufficient. For some, I go beyond by giving them money through Patreon and the like, or buying their swag.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  of course it is fair to be paid, they should be paid regardless by YouTube though, not by me watching the ADS. If I block the ads, YouTube should pay them nonetheless. Because I chose to block the ADS, not the content creator. But it's not my responsibility to watch the ADS or the sponsored content. The content has been uploaded as "public & free" and I watch it for free.
  - maximus-decimus 4y ago

ahtihn 4y ago

I don't really care that creators don't get paid. Youtube was better when no one was getting paid.

JohnFen 4y ago

> And so the creators don't get paid when you watch their content. Let's be honest here -- creators aren't really getting paid any meaningful amount of money from those ads anymore. Those days are long gone. That's why all YouTubers who care about revenue do their own ads as part of their own content, and/or use things like Patreon. There's only one reason why YouTubers even bother to allow YouTube to "monetize" them -- if they don't, YouTube won't recommend them to other viewers. I also pay for Premium, though.

Panzer04 4y ago
This is untrue afaik. Even big channels with big self-sponsorship (eg Linus Tech Tips) still make (pulling out of thin air here) something like 20-30%+ of their revenue from native google ads.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  As I understand it, the big channels do make decent money from their cut of Google's ads. But the vast majority of YouTubers aren't big. I think it's a percentage game.

titaniumtown 4y ago

Youtube ad revenue is a very small part of income made from creating Youtube videos. Most people who makes videos take up sponsorships which are way more lucrative.