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Element was founded as half French/British, but we also have German & US legal entities now, and we will shift our HQ out of the UK if forced to.

walterbell 4y ago
What do you think of the EU "Chat Control" proposals? https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-co... > The European Commission went a step further on the 11 May 2022 by presenting a proposal which would make chat control mandatory for all e-mail, chat and messenger providers and would even apply to so far securely end-to-end encrypted communication services ... All of your chat conversations and emails will be automatically searched for suspicious content. Nothing remains confidential or secret. There is no requirement of a court order or an initial suspicion for searching your messages. It occurs always and automatically. One way to increase awareness of these proposals would be for E2EE messengers to include an in-app notice and call to action, for customers in affected countries.
- spoiler 4y ago
  > One way to increase awareness of these proposals would be for E2EE messengers to include an in-app notice and call to action, for customers in affected countries. I think this is a really cool, low-cost/effort way to raise awareness. Makes me wonder if this could be used against those apps somehow. We all know some countries' governments are quite coerceful and scummy...
  - walterbell 4y ago
    > used against those apps somehow Speech about _draft_ laws is known as debate in a democracy. Coercion about _draft_ laws would remove any illusion of consent and illustrate why the proposals are misguided.
notpushkin 4y ago
That is reassuring, thank you! Have you considered moving the HQ to some more privacy-friendly place? (Switzerland would be an obvious choice, but I've heard good things about Seychelles too, for example.)

walterbell 4y ago

What do you think of the EU "Chat Control" proposals? https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-co... > The European Commission went a step further on the 11 May 2022 by presenting a proposal which would make chat control mandatory for all e-mail, chat and messenger providers and would even apply to so far securely end-to-end encrypted communication services ... All of your chat conversations and emails will be automatically searched for suspicious content. Nothing remains confidential or secret. There is no requirement of a court order or an initial suspicion for searching your messages. It occurs always and automatically. One way to increase awareness of these proposals would be for E2EE messengers to include an in-app notice and call to action, for customers in affected countries.

spoiler 4y ago
> One way to increase awareness of these proposals would be for E2EE messengers to include an in-app notice and call to action, for customers in affected countries. I think this is a really cool, low-cost/effort way to raise awareness. Makes me wonder if this could be used against those apps somehow. We all know some countries' governments are quite coerceful and scummy...
- walterbell 4y ago
  > used against those apps somehow Speech about _draft_ laws is known as debate in a democracy. Coercion about _draft_ laws would remove any illusion of consent and illustrate why the proposals are misguided.

notpushkin 4y ago

That is reassuring, thank you! Have you considered moving the HQ to some more privacy-friendly place? (Switzerland would be an obvious choice, but I've heard good things about Seychelles too, for example.)