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I was spared in the Nov 2022 layoff but decided to find another gig anyway and started elsewhere in January. The difference for my mental health has been night

by extr 4y ago

I was spared in the Nov 2022 layoff but decided to find another gig anyway and started elsewhere in January. The difference for my mental health has been night and day. Constant talk about "increased intensity" (what does that mean? I already thought I was working pretty hard), layoffs rumors with no official clarification, PSC stack ranking. No thanks, it just wasn't for me.

senttoschool 4y ago
I think it's by known that layoffs will lead to more voluntary quitting. I wouldn't be surprise if half of the reason for "increased intensity" is to get more people to leave without paying severance.
curioushacking 4y ago
I was in the exact same situation. I loved my team at Meta and learned a ton, but after the increased intensity QA from Zuck I went through two rounds of re-structuring and was shuffled to new teams. I found that I didn't have the motivation to learn the specific implementation of the huge layers of abstraction the new team was creating. Couple this with a general questioning my life goals and if I want to spend more of it on making ad serving slightly better. I was left searching. I've landed at a new gig and I've been so much happier despite a sizable pay cut at my new role. In general, while it clearly created huge turmoil, I wonder if one large round where you potentially cut too deep would be better on company health than many smaller rounds. I'd be curious if the sentiment of engineers at Twitter is now more positive then that at Meta.
- przemo_li 4y ago
  Twitter got new round of lay offs. Don't drink cool aid. Twitter case is not yet settled. Musk bought Twitter as company-in-crisis, and crisis was not about excess workforce...
- extr 4y ago
  Yeah, I had similar experiences with multiple reorgs and shuffles. I was only there for a year and had 4 separate managers. After the newest one I said enough is enough, I was just tired of perpetually reevaluating priorities and roadmapping. Time to actually do some work. Glad you're happy in your new gig too, talking with others who have left it seems our story is not uncommon.
gregors 4y ago
When I see leadership positions talk about "refocusing" or "intensity" it comes across as extremely disingenuous. If you weren't focused or working before, well what were you doing?

by extr 4y ago

senttoschool 4y ago

I think it's by known that layoffs will lead to more voluntary quitting. I wouldn't be surprise if half of the reason for "increased intensity" is to get more people to leave without paying severance.

curioushacking 4y ago

I was in the exact same situation. I loved my team at Meta and learned a ton, but after the increased intensity QA from Zuck I went through two rounds of re-structuring and was shuffled to new teams. I found that I didn't have the motivation to learn the specific implementation of the huge layers of abstraction the new team was creating. Couple this with a general questioning my life goals and if I want to spend more of it on making ad serving slightly better. I was left searching. I've landed at a new gig and I've been so much happier despite a sizable pay cut at my new role. In general, while it clearly created huge turmoil, I wonder if one large round where you potentially cut too deep would be better on company health than many smaller rounds. I'd be curious if the sentiment of engineers at Twitter is now more positive then that at Meta.

przemo_li 4y ago
Twitter got new round of lay offs. Don't drink cool aid. Twitter case is not yet settled. Musk bought Twitter as company-in-crisis, and crisis was not about excess workforce...
extr 4y ago
Yeah, I had similar experiences with multiple reorgs and shuffles. I was only there for a year and had 4 separate managers. After the newest one I said enough is enough, I was just tired of perpetually reevaluating priorities and roadmapping. Time to actually do some work. Glad you're happy in your new gig too, talking with others who have left it seems our story is not uncommon.

gregors 4y ago

When I see leadership positions talk about "refocusing" or "intensity" it comes across as extremely disingenuous. If you weren't focused or working before, well what were you doing?