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(Disclaimer: not intended as a complaint/disagreement with vinay_ys' comment, more of a rant about how I feel like how humanity as a whole could do a lot more t
by vanderZwan 4y ago
(Disclaimer: not intended as a complaint/disagreement with vinay_ys' comment, more of a rant about how I feel like how humanity as a whole could do a lot more to escape from zero-sum game scenarios)
> Markets are "efficient" at transferring money from "stupid" to "smart" people. Here "stupid" or "smart" is directly related to lower or higher in that information/power hierarchy.
Tangent: while this clearly applies in this context, I generally get really frustrated by this narrow way of modeling markets and by extension the economy, TBH, because it leaves out basically everything that's relevant to solving the really hard problems. Specifically, it ignores that real-life scenarios are not only strict hierarchies but complex networks that feature a ton of intransitive asymmetries (think rock-paper-scissors). Like, Buffet and Gates allegedly know about this[0] so it's not exactly obscure, and when you actually ask people on how they deal with trivial examples of it it becomes obvious that it's everywhere and people somehow try to work with it all the time[1], but whenever I hear people discuss markets it seems to be ignored. I dunno, I hope actual economists are less naive than the armchair kind (to which I certainly belong).
It kind of makes the misuse of the model feel like applying an algorithm that only works with DAGs to graphs full of cycles. It's not useless (just like how identifying DAGs is really important and useful), but when used to oversimplify complex scenarios it obscures the potential "good" cycles (virtuous ones) and "bad" ones (vicious cycles, deadlocks).
[0] https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-roll-dice-and-get-rock-paper-scissors-20230119/ https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-roll-dice-and-...
[1] https://aeon.co/essays/attempts-to-choose-the-best-life-may-be-doomed-to-failure https://aeon.co/essays/attempts-to-choose-the-best-life-may-...
- vinay_ys 4y agoThe papers/articles you quoted actually strengthen my argument. The information asymmetry is also about education/comprehension of complex concepts and rules of operating. Vast majority of humans participating in the economy (including a lot of smart techies) don't have sufficient access or strong enough aptitude/interest to seek out and learn such things to make material difference to their decisions. Instead they depend on psychological shortcuts to make "poor" decisions that keeps them lower in that information/power hierarchy. The game theory aspect of it is this – it is in in the best interest of the few to maintain/reinforce the mechanisms at play to keep the masses blissfully ignorant and continue to be dependant on those psychological shortcuts. If more and more people become conscious of it and start to "squeeze" the value in the middle of the value-chain, then the value accruing to the people at the top significantly reduces. Usually when that happens, powerful people change the rules of the game to reintroduce more information asymmetry again.