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Apparently, you've never watched those start-up tutorials sold on YouTube. Half the course is spent on arguing that by paying $2000 to learn how to make your ow

Apparently, you've never watched those start-up tutorials sold on YouTube. Half the course is spent on arguing that by paying $2000 to learn how to make your own iOS apps, you're "investing in yourself". And of course the people that run the course make most of their money from running the course and not from actually releasing iOS apps... I recommend "Contrepreneurs: The Mikkelsen Twins" by "Folding Ideas" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biYciU1uiUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biYciU1uiUw

Out_of_Characte 4y ago
To be fair, any profession or field can be turned into a con. Just because deepak chopra advocates quantum healing doesn't mean the field itself is corrupt. MLM are by definition corrupt but startups aren't.
- ozim 4y ago
  Maybe there is a tipping point where we start saying that "startup" is no longer a positive word. Amount of wannapreneurs loosing money on scams, amounts of young adults exploited to work for below market rates for years, amount of scammers hiding under "startup" banner getting money from VCs or small investors are not "one Deepak using quantum healing".
- thewebcount 4y ago
  > Just because deepak chopra advocates quantum healing doesn't mean the field itself is corrupt. I must not be understanding what you mean. The field of quantum healing is entirely corrupt. There is no such thing, it's all bunk. Do you mean that quantum physics isn't corrupt? Because I doubt anybody thinks that.
unmole 4y ago
> Apparently, you've never watched those start-up tutorials sold on YouTube. I have not. Probably because they simply aren't a significant part of tech or startup culture.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  Not to you. Kids starting will easily believe that is startup culture.
  - unmole 4y ago
    I don't understand how Kids have an inaccurate and incomplete understanding of the world is supposed to be a rebuttal.
    - actionfromafar 4y ago
      I don't understand how no-true-scotsmanning "startup culture" is helping either.
      - unmole 4y ago
        > A no true Scotsman fallacy, or appeal to purity, is a fallacy where the one arguing says or writes that all people belonging to a certain group have the same trait, and those in that group who do not share that trait are not really part of that group. Care to point out where I made any universal claims about startup culture?
        mkmk3 4y ago
        "Those MLM videos dont represent real startup/tech culture" For the record, I agree with you.
  - sshine 4y ago
    The same MLM scam ads exist for becoming a cryptocurrency investor. Kids will also easily believe that is cryptocurrencies. The beautiful cryptography is completely shadowed by speculation.
    - pwdisswordfishc 4y ago
      And the kids would be correct in believing that.
throwaway049 4y ago
"people that run the course make most of their money from running the course and not from actually releasing iOS apps..." This is so pervasive. Even in the mainstream economy where we see universities marketing courses that might seem to lead to employment but in fact are very niche with little chance of leading to a job in that specialism. I've been looking for piano tuition recently and it's refreshing to see marketing along the lines of how much enjoyment you'll get, with potential to entertain your friends at parties.

Out_of_Characte 4y ago

To be fair, any profession or field can be turned into a con. Just because deepak chopra advocates quantum healing doesn't mean the field itself is corrupt. MLM are by definition corrupt but startups aren't.

ozim 4y ago
Maybe there is a tipping point where we start saying that "startup" is no longer a positive word. Amount of wannapreneurs loosing money on scams, amounts of young adults exploited to work for below market rates for years, amount of scammers hiding under "startup" banner getting money from VCs or small investors are not "one Deepak using quantum healing".
thewebcount 4y ago
> Just because deepak chopra advocates quantum healing doesn't mean the field itself is corrupt. I must not be understanding what you mean. The field of quantum healing is entirely corrupt. There is no such thing, it's all bunk. Do you mean that quantum physics isn't corrupt? Because I doubt anybody thinks that.

unmole 4y ago

> Apparently, you've never watched those start-up tutorials sold on YouTube. I have not. Probably because they simply aren't a significant part of tech or startup culture.

actionfromafar 4y ago
Not to you. Kids starting will easily believe that is startup culture.
- unmole 4y ago
  I don't understand how Kids have an inaccurate and incomplete understanding of the world is supposed to be a rebuttal.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    I don't understand how no-true-scotsmanning "startup culture" is helping either.
    - unmole 4y ago
      > A no true Scotsman fallacy, or appeal to purity, is a fallacy where the one arguing says or writes that all people belonging to a certain group have the same trait, and those in that group who do not share that trait are not really part of that group. Care to point out where I made any universal claims about startup culture?
      - mkmk3 4y ago
        "Those MLM videos dont represent real startup/tech culture" For the record, I agree with you.
- sshine 4y ago
  The same MLM scam ads exist for becoming a cryptocurrency investor. Kids will also easily believe that is cryptocurrencies. The beautiful cryptography is completely shadowed by speculation.
  - pwdisswordfishc 4y ago
    And the kids would be correct in believing that.

throwaway049 4y ago

"people that run the course make most of their money from running the course and not from actually releasing iOS apps..." This is so pervasive. Even in the mainstream economy where we see universities marketing courses that might seem to lead to employment but in fact are very niche with little chance of leading to a job in that specialism. I've been looking for piano tuition recently and it's refreshing to see marketing along the lines of how much enjoyment you'll get, with potential to entertain your friends at parties.