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Everytime a company releases a big battery phone onto the market it fails to sell at significant volumes. Some people want huge battery phones, but most don't,

Everytime a company releases a big battery phone onto the market it fails to sell at significant volumes. Some people want huge battery phones, but most don't, consumers have been voting their wallets for over a decade now.

jjk166 4y ago
When have you ever gone to get your phone replaced and have them ask you "do you want the model with the long battery life or the model that's thin?" The failure of niche competitors most people have never heard of is not consumers voting with their wallet, it is anti-competitive behavior entrenching established players.
- com2kid 4y ago
  Motorola has spent years trying selling phones with large, 5000mAh batteries, with no success. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/motorolas-2019-cheap-smartphone-lineup- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/motorolas-2019-cheap... includes-a-5000mah-battery-option/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/the-2020-moto-g-goes-up-for-pre-order-today-starting-at-250/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/the-2020-moto-g-goes... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/motorola-shovels-the-2021-moto-g-lineup-onto-the-market/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/motorola-shovels-the... Here is HTC trying to sell a phone with a large battery https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/htc-still-makes-smartphones-meet-the-htc-u20-5g/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/htc-still-makes-smar... Right now ASUS will happily sell you a phone with a very large battery https://www.asus.com/mobile/phones/rog-phone/filter?Series=ROG-Phone https://www.asus.com/mobile/phones/rog-phone/filter?Series=R... Motorola will sell you a 2022 model with a 5000mAh battery https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-moto-g-power-gen-3/p?skuId=876 https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-moto-g-power-gen-3/p... But, want to know a secret? If you want almost any smartphone to have a battery life of 5+ days, don't install any chat or social media apps, and turn off background email syncing. For that matter, turn off all background data transfers. Problem solved. Because it isn't hardware that is at fault, it is software. Batteries have actually been getting bigger and bigger, the iPhone 6 everyone loves from 8 years ago had a battery that was under 2000mAh. Here is a graph of iPhone battery sizes: https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/29/iphone-battery-mah-capacity-list/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/29/iphone-battery-mah-capacity-l... Batteries have been getting bigger, as have screens, and the software demands put on devices. It isn't some conspiracy or market failure.

jjk166 4y ago

When have you ever gone to get your phone replaced and have them ask you "do you want the model with the long battery life or the model that's thin?" The failure of niche competitors most people have never heard of is not consumers voting with their wallet, it is anti-competitive behavior entrenching established players.

com2kid 4y ago
Motorola has spent years trying selling phones with large, 5000mAh batteries, with no success. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/motorolas-2019-cheap-smartphone-lineup- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/motorolas-2019-cheap... includes-a-5000mah-battery-option/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/the-2020-moto-g-goes-up-for-pre-order-today-starting-at-250/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/the-2020-moto-g-goes... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/motorola-shovels-the-2021-moto-g-lineup-onto-the-market/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/motorola-shovels-the... Here is HTC trying to sell a phone with a large battery https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/htc-still-makes-smartphones-meet-the-htc-u20-5g/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/htc-still-makes-smar... Right now ASUS will happily sell you a phone with a very large battery https://www.asus.com/mobile/phones/rog-phone/filter?Series=ROG-Phone https://www.asus.com/mobile/phones/rog-phone/filter?Series=R... Motorola will sell you a 2022 model with a 5000mAh battery https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-moto-g-power-gen-3/p?skuId=876 https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-moto-g-power-gen-3/p... But, want to know a secret? If you want almost any smartphone to have a battery life of 5+ days, don't install any chat or social media apps, and turn off background email syncing. For that matter, turn off all background data transfers. Problem solved. Because it isn't hardware that is at fault, it is software. Batteries have actually been getting bigger and bigger, the iPhone 6 everyone loves from 8 years ago had a battery that was under 2000mAh. Here is a graph of iPhone battery sizes: https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/29/iphone-battery-mah-capacity-list/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/29/iphone-battery-mah-capacity-l... Batteries have been getting bigger, as have screens, and the software demands put on devices. It isn't some conspiracy or market failure.