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> If you spend hours and hours playing the game, I can imagine that at some point you feel like you should be getting better than most people. I'm sure they fe

> If you spend hours and hours playing the game, I can imagine that at some point you feel like you should be getting better than most people. I'm sure they feel the same way.

runnerup 4y ago
So, with the old system. If you sucked you knew you sucked and it was okay. Now there’s no feedback. You can suck and convince yourself you’re awesome, and everyone who is awesome still thinks they suck, except the top 5-10 players in the world. I personally like matchmaking, but I get it. Sometimes I want to play people who are way, way better than me and “suck”. Like I used to.
- throw10920 4y ago
  The vast majority of people who rant against fair matchmaking systems, unfortunately, are not like you - they instead want to consistently play against people that are far worse than them, so they can repeatedly stomp the games and convince themselves that they're awesome. The situation that you described is so incredibly uncommon that publishers will never specifically address it. This isn't good, but the general (instead of specific) approach of "getting rid of skill-based matchmaking" has so many more downsides that that's going going to happen either (and it would be very bad).
  - runnerup 4y ago
    If I was a publisher I’d address it by making a micro transaction to temporarily add a boost to your MMR. So players can pay money to play better opponents.
    - throw10920 4y ago
      Unfortunately, that doesn't work in any games where you play on a team, because then everyone else on your team is playing with a lower-skilled player, which makes the game much harder (and usually less fun) for them. The only way you could implement this feature in a fair way (for both teams) is if you allowed an "MMR boost" when your entire team is a single party. And that would be fair! I'd support that feature, even if I never use it.
- secdeal 4y ago
  That doesn't make sense, in modern match making systems you see your rank and/or rating points, you get higher, perfectly fine feedback. No one convinces themselves that they are great when they are can see that they are in the bottom division..

> If you spend hours and hours playing the game, I can imagine that at some point you feel like you should be getting better than most people. I'm sure they feel the same way.

runnerup 4y ago

So, with the old system. If you sucked you knew you sucked and it was okay. Now there’s no feedback. You can suck and convince yourself you’re awesome, and everyone who is awesome still thinks they suck, except the top 5-10 players in the world. I personally like matchmaking, but I get it. Sometimes I want to play people who are way, way better than me and “suck”. Like I used to.

throw10920 4y ago
The vast majority of people who rant against fair matchmaking systems, unfortunately, are not like you - they instead want to consistently play against people that are far worse than them, so they can repeatedly stomp the games and convince themselves that they're awesome. The situation that you described is so incredibly uncommon that publishers will never specifically address it. This isn't good, but the general (instead of specific) approach of "getting rid of skill-based matchmaking" has so many more downsides that that's going going to happen either (and it would be very bad).
- runnerup 4y ago
  If I was a publisher I’d address it by making a micro transaction to temporarily add a boost to your MMR. So players can pay money to play better opponents.
  - throw10920 4y ago
    Unfortunately, that doesn't work in any games where you play on a team, because then everyone else on your team is playing with a lower-skilled player, which makes the game much harder (and usually less fun) for them. The only way you could implement this feature in a fair way (for both teams) is if you allowed an "MMR boost" when your entire team is a single party. And that would be fair! I'd support that feature, even if I never use it.
secdeal 4y ago
That doesn't make sense, in modern match making systems you see your rank and/or rating points, you get higher, perfectly fine feedback. No one convinces themselves that they are great when they are can see that they are in the bottom division..