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I suggested reading the linked article. > “Results showed that exposure to manipulated Instagram photos directly led to lower body image.” Engeln, Loach, Imun

I suggested reading the linked article. > “Results showed that exposure to manipulated Instagram photos directly led to lower body image.” Engeln, Loach, Imundo, & Zola (2020) Children with vulnerable developing brains being targeted by algorithms designed by teams of engineers and PhDs to exploit human psychology don't stand a chance. You may as well be telling heroin addicts to "just don't get addicted bro". You can show kids /r/Instagramreality/ [1]. I doubt it will help. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/Instagramreality/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Instagramreality/

redeeman 4y ago
> You may as well be telling heroin addicts to "just don't get addicted bro". that makes no sense, it would be more like telling people that are not yet addicted: "dont get addicted bro". and yes, dont fucking get addicted edit: humans are also attracted to fire, we tell kids, "dont stick your fingers into the fire", they learn.
- Dalewyn 4y ago
  I'm upvoting, because the crux of this comes down to proper parenting. It's the job of the parents to teach kids how the world works, including what are fictional constructs that should not be used for any kind of measurement.
- kaba0 4y ago
  That’s probably lost the time they go to school where social pressure is stronger than any form of parenting — that’s why DARE and banning social media doesn’t work, what a good parent is supposed to do is give them enough information with which their kids can handle the situation. They will try out weed and will have a secret tiktok whether you like it or not, and I much rather they tell me about these so that I can help when they feel lost.
- red-iron-pine 4y ago
  Of course don't get addicted. Everyone knows that, even people who end up addicted. If "just don't do X" worked, no one would be fat, corrupt, addicted, or injured in workplace accidents. But people don't work that way, and "don't do X" is hopelessly reductive -- it leaves out all of the (often very strong) factors that drive people to actually do 'X', such as non-stop marketing on TV, movies, radio, and internet apps pushing them to look, think, act, and buy the same things.
BobbyJo 4y ago
Some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that a lot of what drives emotion is subliminal and can't be logic'd away. It doesn't matter if you know it's fake, if you see nothing but perfect 10's all day, then look in the mirror, you're gonna feel ugly. If you see nothing but people in G-wagons all day, your shitbox Honda is gonna make you feel like a failure. That's not even considering that fact that the sheer volume of fake that gets dumped on people completely skews the logic aspect too. Even if you wanted to be rational about you successes and failures, how are you even supposed to know where you really stand?
- estebank 4y ago
  > It doesn't matter if you know it's fake I am reminded of the study that found that placebos "worked" (had positive effects) even when the patient knew it was a placebo[1]. Unrealistic standards of beauty perpetuated by digitally manipulated images in advertising and social media can mess you up the same way, even when you know what is at play. You can be manipulated by an ad even when you know it is an ad trying to sell you something you likely don't need. [1]: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/03/placebos https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/03/placebos
scruple 4y ago
There's no need to single out children. There's plenty more adults -- Gen X, Boomers, and probably Silent generation folks, too -- who seem to have completely lost their minds after finding their way onto the internet in the last decade.

redeeman 4y ago

> You may as well be telling heroin addicts to "just don't get addicted bro". that makes no sense, it would be more like telling people that are not yet addicted: "dont get addicted bro". and yes, dont fucking get addicted edit: humans are also attracted to fire, we tell kids, "dont stick your fingers into the fire", they learn.

Dalewyn 4y ago
I'm upvoting, because the crux of this comes down to proper parenting. It's the job of the parents to teach kids how the world works, including what are fictional constructs that should not be used for any kind of measurement.
kaba0 4y ago
That’s probably lost the time they go to school where social pressure is stronger than any form of parenting — that’s why DARE and banning social media doesn’t work, what a good parent is supposed to do is give them enough information with which their kids can handle the situation. They will try out weed and will have a secret tiktok whether you like it or not, and I much rather they tell me about these so that I can help when they feel lost.
red-iron-pine 4y ago
Of course don't get addicted. Everyone knows that, even people who end up addicted. If "just don't do X" worked, no one would be fat, corrupt, addicted, or injured in workplace accidents. But people don't work that way, and "don't do X" is hopelessly reductive -- it leaves out all of the (often very strong) factors that drive people to actually do 'X', such as non-stop marketing on TV, movies, radio, and internet apps pushing them to look, think, act, and buy the same things.

BobbyJo 4y ago

Some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that a lot of what drives emotion is subliminal and can't be logic'd away. It doesn't matter if you know it's fake, if you see nothing but perfect 10's all day, then look in the mirror, you're gonna feel ugly. If you see nothing but people in G-wagons all day, your shitbox Honda is gonna make you feel like a failure. That's not even considering that fact that the sheer volume of fake that gets dumped on people completely skews the logic aspect too. Even if you wanted to be rational about you successes and failures, how are you even supposed to know where you really stand?

estebank 4y ago
> It doesn't matter if you know it's fake I am reminded of the study that found that placebos "worked" (had positive effects) even when the patient knew it was a placebo[1]. Unrealistic standards of beauty perpetuated by digitally manipulated images in advertising and social media can mess you up the same way, even when you know what is at play. You can be manipulated by an ad even when you know it is an ad trying to sell you something you likely don't need. [1]: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/03/placebos https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/03/placebos

scruple 4y ago

There's no need to single out children. There's plenty more adults -- Gen X, Boomers, and probably Silent generation folks, too -- who seem to have completely lost their minds after finding their way onto the internet in the last decade.