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It’s a necessity for all humans to eat meat. Whether you eat animal or lab meat is the choice.

by armatav 4y ago

p0pcult 4y ago
Wut. A lot of India would like to have a word with you.
- myko 4y ago
  I quickly googled but didn't see a good answer on this, how do Indian families do baby formula? I thought formula required animal product to be effective.
  - p0pcult 4y ago
    "Meat" and "animal product" are not the same.
- armatav 4y ago
  Yes, a country well known for the nutritional constitution of its impoverished.
  - p0pcult 4y ago
    Right, i forgot. Meat is the cheap nutritional option. /s
munk-a 4y ago
This is just factually incorrect - I can't even think of anything I can really cite to highlight that we're able to derive all the nutrients we need from plants and that it gets even easier if nutritional supplements are brought into the picture. I certainly enjoy meat and cook with it frequently - but it's a luxury and one that is hardly mechanically necessary to my survival (and, tbh, is generally a larger source of health issues than veganism).
- armatav 4y ago
  Wrong - a plant diet without supplementation is effectively a health crisis. It’s no luxury. We did not evolve our brains based on a “luxury”. Cooked meat is a necessity. You are worse for not having it in every and any case, and a plant based diet without supplementation is equivalent to running at a lower efficiency.
  - myshpa 4y ago
    Please don't spread FUD and lies, please. > Wrong - a plant diet without supplementation is effectively a health crisis Supplementation is not a problem - we're supplementing the animals with B12 etc. anyway, so why not skip the middleman. > Cooked meat is a necessity It was, but it isn't anymore. Not in most of the world. > You are worse for not having it Not true - plant based diets are healthier. It's a fact. > plant based diet without supplementation is equivalent to running at a lower efficiency Nobody forces you to skip supplementation ... everywhere you look it's mentioned as a necessity. And many vegan products are fortified already. Everything you get from animal products you can get from plants. Those animals did.
    - armatav 4y ago
      Plant based diets are purely worse for you - you can tell because you need to slam 11 different nutrient pills to keep going without your body failing. You terminate earlier on these fad-diets than on your natural omnivorous diet - and what's more, if you did pure meat and no vegetables, you're actually 2x better off than on a purely plant diet.
      - myshpa 4y ago
        I know you're here to troll, so I won't spend a lot of time on the reply. > 11 different nutrient pills to keep going without your body failing The only pill you should take (if there is no fortified food in your pantry) is B12. You don't need anything else. And B12 is from bacteria/algae, not from animals. > terminate earlier on these fad-diets https://www.livestrong.com/article/13730585-plant-based-diet-benefits/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/13730585-plant-based-diet... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ and thousands others > than on your natural omnivorous diet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIoKmMq6cs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIoKmMq6cs - Anthropologist Debunks the Paleo Diet
ta1243 4y ago
There's about 500 million vegetarians in the world
- armatav 4y ago
  What a shame
myshpa 4y ago
American Dietetic Association "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." NHS UK "A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." British Dietetic Association "A plant-based diet is based on foods derived from plants, […] with few or no animal products. […] Well-planned plant-based diets can support healthy living at every age and life-stage" World Health Organisation "For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate. For children, however, and especially those aged 6-24 months, each meal should contain wherever possible two complementary sources of plant protein" https://talkveganto.me/en/facts/suitable-for-all/ https://talkveganto.me/en/facts/suitable-for-all/
- armatav 4y ago
  All part of the same organizations - all incorrect in their assumption. Cooked meat is necessary for healthy living.

It’s a necessity for all humans to eat meat. Whether you eat animal or lab meat is the choice.

p0pcult 4y ago

Wut. A lot of India would like to have a word with you.

myko 4y ago
I quickly googled but didn't see a good answer on this, how do Indian families do baby formula? I thought formula required animal product to be effective.
- p0pcult 4y ago
  "Meat" and "animal product" are not the same.
armatav 4y ago
Yes, a country well known for the nutritional constitution of its impoverished.
- p0pcult 4y ago
  Right, i forgot. Meat is the cheap nutritional option. /s

munk-a 4y ago

This is just factually incorrect - I can't even think of anything I can really cite to highlight that we're able to derive all the nutrients we need from plants and that it gets even easier if nutritional supplements are brought into the picture. I certainly enjoy meat and cook with it frequently - but it's a luxury and one that is hardly mechanically necessary to my survival (and, tbh, is generally a larger source of health issues than veganism).

armatav 4y ago
Wrong - a plant diet without supplementation is effectively a health crisis. It’s no luxury. We did not evolve our brains based on a “luxury”. Cooked meat is a necessity. You are worse for not having it in every and any case, and a plant based diet without supplementation is equivalent to running at a lower efficiency.
- myshpa 4y ago
  Please don't spread FUD and lies, please. > Wrong - a plant diet without supplementation is effectively a health crisis Supplementation is not a problem - we're supplementing the animals with B12 etc. anyway, so why not skip the middleman. > Cooked meat is a necessity It was, but it isn't anymore. Not in most of the world. > You are worse for not having it Not true - plant based diets are healthier. It's a fact. > plant based diet without supplementation is equivalent to running at a lower efficiency Nobody forces you to skip supplementation ... everywhere you look it's mentioned as a necessity. And many vegan products are fortified already. Everything you get from animal products you can get from plants. Those animals did.
  - armatav 4y ago
    Plant based diets are purely worse for you - you can tell because you need to slam 11 different nutrient pills to keep going without your body failing. You terminate earlier on these fad-diets than on your natural omnivorous diet - and what's more, if you did pure meat and no vegetables, you're actually 2x better off than on a purely plant diet.
    - myshpa 4y ago
      I know you're here to troll, so I won't spend a lot of time on the reply. > 11 different nutrient pills to keep going without your body failing The only pill you should take (if there is no fortified food in your pantry) is B12. You don't need anything else. And B12 is from bacteria/algae, not from animals. > terminate earlier on these fad-diets https://www.livestrong.com/article/13730585-plant-based-diet-benefits/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/13730585-plant-based-diet... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ and thousands others > than on your natural omnivorous diet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIoKmMq6cs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIoKmMq6cs - Anthropologist Debunks the Paleo Diet

ta1243 4y ago

There's about 500 million vegetarians in the world

armatav 4y ago
What a shame

myshpa 4y ago

American Dietetic Association "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." NHS UK "A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." British Dietetic Association "A plant-based diet is based on foods derived from plants, […] with few or no animal products. […] Well-planned plant-based diets can support healthy living at every age and life-stage" World Health Organisation "For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate. For children, however, and especially those aged 6-24 months, each meal should contain wherever possible two complementary sources of plant protein" https://talkveganto.me/en/facts/suitable-for-all/ https://talkveganto.me/en/facts/suitable-for-all/

armatav 4y ago
All part of the same organizations - all incorrect in their assumption. Cooked meat is necessary for healthy living.