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That is only if you have Google Play Services installed.

by kornhole 4y ago

scarface74 4y ago
So you mean like 99%+ of all Android devices sold outside of China?
- bandyaboot 4y ago
  I think this was meant to point out that trading ads for system wide tracking isn’t necessarily a deal you are forced to make if you are a person who is motivated not to make that deal. For most people avoiding tracking isn’t even a thought. Their first order of business is inviting Facebook, Twitter, and Tik Tok to the party.
dredmorbius 4y ago
That's ... near a necessity for most apps. Though I seem to recall GPS shim that's available and which I really should swap in on my BOOX tablet.
- kornhole 4y ago
  I have been running Graphene for years and find that few proprietary apps really need GAPS. I get a warning that it is required when they try to serve an ad, but I just dismiss it and enjoy the ad free experience. Graphene has great shims and even a sandboxed Google Play Services for those who want a lot of notifications. I don't use it myself, but my partner does.
- hilbert42 4y ago
  Most F-Driod apps don't require Google Play Services. If you can live within the functionality provided by those apps then you're OK. That said, I know many can't.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    AFAIU it's all F-Droid apps that are GPS-free. I rely on a small handful of others installed from the Aurora, Google Play is a requirement for some of those. I may be hallucinating that shim, though I'm pretty sure it actually exists...
    - hilbert42 4y ago
      "...all F-Droid apps that are GPS-free.". Clearly you're right (sometimes I'm overcautious). :-)
    - mackrevinack 4y ago
      what do you mean by gps free? i have lots of apps installed from fdroid that use gps
      - tpxl 4y ago
        Google Play Services, not Global Positioning System.
        dredmorbius 4y ago
        Yes, this.
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      - hilbert42 4y ago
        If you do mean Google Play Services, which apps?
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    - hilbert42 4y ago
      "...I rely on a small handful of others installed from the Aurora, Google Play is a requirement for some of those." Later thought. I also occasionally install Play Store apps via Aurora Store and it's worth noting that some state that they require Google Play Services but in fact they do work without it (I normally have GPS/Google Play disabled or uninstalled). I've not bothered to research why but I presume it's the reporting mechanism that's not working, the core operation of these programs being independent of GPS (presumably this would simplify programming if the programmer is also coding the program for iPhone). I'd be most interested if you or anyone else has more info about this.

That is only if you have Google Play Services installed.

scarface74 4y ago

So you mean like 99%+ of all Android devices sold outside of China?

bandyaboot 4y ago
I think this was meant to point out that trading ads for system wide tracking isn’t necessarily a deal you are forced to make if you are a person who is motivated not to make that deal. For most people avoiding tracking isn’t even a thought. Their first order of business is inviting Facebook, Twitter, and Tik Tok to the party.

dredmorbius 4y ago

That's ... near a necessity for most apps. Though I seem to recall GPS shim that's available and which I really should swap in on my BOOX tablet.

kornhole 4y ago
I have been running Graphene for years and find that few proprietary apps really need GAPS. I get a warning that it is required when they try to serve an ad, but I just dismiss it and enjoy the ad free experience. Graphene has great shims and even a sandboxed Google Play Services for those who want a lot of notifications. I don't use it myself, but my partner does.
hilbert42 4y ago
Most F-Driod apps don't require Google Play Services. If you can live within the functionality provided by those apps then you're OK. That said, I know many can't.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  AFAIU it's all F-Droid apps that are GPS-free. I rely on a small handful of others installed from the Aurora, Google Play is a requirement for some of those. I may be hallucinating that shim, though I'm pretty sure it actually exists...
  - hilbert42 4y ago
    "...all F-Droid apps that are GPS-free.". Clearly you're right (sometimes I'm overcautious). :-)
  - mackrevinack 4y ago
    what do you mean by gps free? i have lots of apps installed from fdroid that use gps
    - tpxl 4y ago
      Google Play Services, not Global Positioning System.
      - dredmorbius 4y ago
        Yes, this.
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    - hilbert42 4y ago
      If you do mean Google Play Services, which apps?
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  - hilbert42 4y ago
    "...I rely on a small handful of others installed from the Aurora, Google Play is a requirement for some of those." Later thought. I also occasionally install Play Store apps via Aurora Store and it's worth noting that some state that they require Google Play Services but in fact they do work without it (I normally have GPS/Google Play disabled or uninstalled). I've not bothered to research why but I presume it's the reporting mechanism that's not working, the core operation of these programs being independent of GPS (presumably this would simplify programming if the programmer is also coding the program for iPhone). I'd be most interested if you or anyone else has more info about this.