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Sounds like a perfect job for ChatGPT to verify every address against their website.

jt2190 4y ago
ChatGPT is not the right tech for the job, but I don’t think you should be downvoted for suggesting that verifying the database entries is something that can be facilitated with as bit of tech.
- db48x 4y ago
  There is one small problem with that. submitting a challenge requires agreeing to this statement: I hereby certify, under penalty of perjury, that: I have examined the information contained in this challenge and, to the best of my actual knowledge, information, and belief, all statements of fact contained in it are true and correct. If an individual, I own or reside at the location being challenged or am otherwise authorized to request broadband service there. I acknowledge that the information provided in this form will be shared with the provider selected above for the sole purpose of reviewing and resolving the challenge. If this form is being submitted by the representative of a company, organization, government, or other entity, then the certification must be signed by an authorized officer or signatory of the entity (e.g., corporate officer, managing partner, sole proprietor, or government official) who has reason to be aware of the truth and correctness of the information submitted herein. [] The entry of my name above constitutes my electronic signature to this certification. Persons making willful false statements in this form can be punished by fine or imprisonment under 18 U.S.C. § 1001. I’d like to see the news stories about them fining or imprisoning someone for correcting their database at an address where they don’t actually live, but I bet it discourages a lot of people from doing it.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
    What is it in that quoted text that would discourage you from submitting a challenge?
    - db48x 4y ago
      I didn’t say that it would deter me, only that it probably deters a lot of people, but this line in particular: If an individual, I own or reside at the location being challenged or am otherwise authorized to request broadband service there. Basically, they only want people to challenge the service where they actually live, not at every address in their neighborhood.
      - justinclift 4y ago
        Personally, I'm kind of surprised someone hasn't set up a website for people to submit their address for contesting bogus FCC data. Having a bunch of affected people working together gives extra power as a group, and potentially allows more ways forward legally (more clout, maybe class action, etc).
        uoaei 4y ago
        You mean the website everyone on this thread is talking about? https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home
        justinclift 4y ago
        No, because the FCC doesn't appear to be in any way proactive. ;)
        uoaei 4y ago
        Can you read out loud for the class the title of TFA, Timmy?
        db48x 4y ago
        If you authorize me to request broadband service at your house, I will check the FCC’s map (https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/ https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/) for you and challenge any incorrect information that I can find. But if you care enough to agree to that, why wouldn’t you just do it yourself? The real problem is that only a fraction of the population knows about the map and knows that they can challenge incorrect information on it, so only a few addresses in any given area will ever be corrected.
  - mistrial9 4y ago
    check out "No WAN's Land: Mapping US Broadband Coverage with Millions of Address Queries to ISPs" by David Major, Ross Texiera and Johnathan Mayer at Princeton University. great praise to this team at Princeton for going for the gusto in this in-your-face excoriation of lumbering greed-heads at Comcast and friends. more like this, please.

ChatGPT is not the right tech for the job, but I don’t think you should be downvoted for suggesting that verifying the database entries is something that can be facilitated with as bit of tech.

db48x 4y ago
There is one small problem with that. submitting a challenge requires agreeing to this statement: I hereby certify, under penalty of perjury, that: I have examined the information contained in this challenge and, to the best of my actual knowledge, information, and belief, all statements of fact contained in it are true and correct. If an individual, I own or reside at the location being challenged or am otherwise authorized to request broadband service there. I acknowledge that the information provided in this form will be shared with the provider selected above for the sole purpose of reviewing and resolving the challenge. If this form is being submitted by the representative of a company, organization, government, or other entity, then the certification must be signed by an authorized officer or signatory of the entity (e.g., corporate officer, managing partner, sole proprietor, or government official) who has reason to be aware of the truth and correctness of the information submitted herein. [] The entry of my name above constitutes my electronic signature to this certification. Persons making willful false statements in this form can be punished by fine or imprisonment under 18 U.S.C. § 1001. I’d like to see the news stories about them fining or imprisoning someone for correcting their database at an address where they don’t actually live, but I bet it discourages a lot of people from doing it.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
  What is it in that quoted text that would discourage you from submitting a challenge?
  - db48x 4y ago
    I didn’t say that it would deter me, only that it probably deters a lot of people, but this line in particular: If an individual, I own or reside at the location being challenged or am otherwise authorized to request broadband service there. Basically, they only want people to challenge the service where they actually live, not at every address in their neighborhood.
    - justinclift 4y ago
      Personally, I'm kind of surprised someone hasn't set up a website for people to submit their address for contesting bogus FCC data. Having a bunch of affected people working together gives extra power as a group, and potentially allows more ways forward legally (more clout, maybe class action, etc).
      - uoaei 4y ago
        You mean the website everyone on this thread is talking about? https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home
        justinclift 4y ago
        No, because the FCC doesn't appear to be in any way proactive. ;)
        uoaei 4y ago
        Can you read out loud for the class the title of TFA, Timmy?
      - db48x 4y ago
        If you authorize me to request broadband service at your house, I will check the FCC’s map (https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/ https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/) for you and challenge any incorrect information that I can find. But if you care enough to agree to that, why wouldn’t you just do it yourself? The real problem is that only a fraction of the population knows about the map and knows that they can challenge incorrect information on it, so only a few addresses in any given area will ever be corrected.
- mistrial9 4y ago
  check out "No WAN's Land: Mapping US Broadband Coverage with Millions of Address Queries to ISPs" by David Major, Ross Texiera and Johnathan Mayer at Princeton University. great praise to this team at Princeton for going for the gusto in this in-your-face excoriation of lumbering greed-heads at Comcast and friends. more like this, please.