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Last summer and also before that, when I applied, I would get ~90% response rate and would have at least a call from recruiter/HM. Last week I sent a bunch of

Last summer and also before that, when I applied, I would get ~90% response rate and would have at least a call from recruiter/HM. Last week I sent a bunch of applications and crickets... this is something that I've never experienced in +10 years being in the industry. I'm not in dire need for a job but I can imagine how much,much stressful is to be unemployed now vs even 3-5 years ago.

tomcam 4y ago
I think you should stop sending crickets. It might annoy prospective employers.
- saghm 4y ago
  It definitely sends the wrong message about introducing bugs rather than removing them
mortenjorck 4y ago
I was laid off in December and this has been by far the hardest search of the now four times (yes, really) I’ve been laid off in my career. The few times I’ve received anything resembling feedback in this cycle has been along the lines of “we have a large number of highly qualified candidates for this role” and with a lot of LinkedIn postings citing 200+ applicants, I believe it.
- claytonjy 4y ago
  Never apply through LinkedIn. It is so low-friction that the vast majority of applicants are nowhere near qualified, and hiring managers quickly learn to ignore anything that came in from LinkedIn.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
    OTOH, if you are job hunting, be sure to keep your LinkedIn profile up to date.
    - kerpotgh 4y ago
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    - pkdpic 4y ago
      Thats helpful (but rare) to hear. Does anyone have any concrete anecdotes reinforcing the importance of keeping linkedin looking fresh? Also what matters? Artful descriptions of past positions? Activity on timeline? Upvotes on skills? Links to projects?
      - koube 4y ago
        I used to keep my linkedin fresh just to see what feelers I get. I also funnel all recruiter emails into a folder. (It's a good ego boost sometimes, not gonna lie.) Last time I was looking for a job roughly four years ago, I just opened my email recruiter folder and started responding. Responded to four emails, (three faangs plus linkedin), and now I'm at a faang. Now, there's no way to know for sure that keeping linkedin fresh actually helps. Also it was a special time where I had just finished an online masters in CS and I was really on a roll so I was taking a bunch of MOOCs afterwards as well. IMO keeping my linkedin updated with a degree in CS and mooc certificates helped. Normal day to day stuff I wouldn't update linkedin for.
      - topkai22 4y ago
        When I was reviewing resumes I would generally also look at an interesting candidate’s LinkedIn as it often provided more detail than the resume itself. For me, I was mostly looking for more detail on a candidate’s experience. Links to projects were good. I didn’t consciously look at anything else, but I’ll admit that I probably regarded more complete profiles better. I would also check out candidate’s personal sites. Decent content (even not up to date) was generally a big bonus.
      - Aromasin 4y ago
        Despite the criticism from other people in this thread, pretty much every role I've received is through LinkedIn. I probably get 4 or 5 recruiters reach out a week regarding one role or another, of which 1 of those is worth my time. That increased over time as I've built my network of recruiters in my field. In terms of prior experience, I simply state what I achieved at each role in a bullet list. Nothing fancy. My university education is a list of all the modules I took. Forget the "social media gamifying" side of it. Likes and posts don't matter if your goal is just getting offers. Keeping the profile current, and have your skills section up to date as recruiters use that to filter applicants. Block any recruiters that send you insultingly low-ball offers. Connect with those that provide value.
  - vineyardmike 4y ago
    I’ve actually found LI to be good for leads for generic companies as an alternative “resume drop” - any time the company paid to distribute the job you know they’re actively recruiting for it.
  - maleldil 4y ago
    What should one do instead?
    - ebiester 4y ago
      Find someone in the company that’s a second order connection and ask for a warm intro. Most companies still have a recruitment bonus for internal employees and after a short conversation most will tell you they’ll tell the internal hiring manager to look at your resume. The higher up on the career ladder you are, the better this works and more important it is if you’re not getting in via recruiter.
- bugbuddy 4y ago
  I have had very similar experience to this and everything said here is 100% accurate. It is extremely taxing on my mental health. Fortunately, my hobbies have really helped.
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  > we have a large number of highly qualified candidates for this role” and with a lot of LinkedIn postings citing 200+ applicants, I believe it. That doesn't mean they get 200 highly qualified candidates ;) In my experience, before you would get 150 applicants and not a single one qualified for the job (could actually program or have any relevant experience). Now you get 3 qualified ones and 200 applicants.
satvikpendem 4y ago
I guess I don't exactly understand as my experience is quite different. I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs.
- weatherlite 4y ago
  > I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs Some companies (not many) are still recruiting, and there's now a massive amount of laid off people fighting for those jobs. Just because some recruited spammed you doesn't mean it would have been easy to get an offer...
  - satvikpendem 4y ago
    Yeah we'll see how the market goes then.
- ejb999 4y ago
  >>I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs. reply A few of those jobs might even really exist! I am of the opinion that the vast majority of inquiries I get from linked in (at least 5 a week) are from scammers and brand-new or desperate recruiters just looking to collect resumes to add to their database. I pretty much ignore all linkedin inquiries at this point - it has been taken over by scammer and hucksters.
  - satvikpendem 4y ago
    Hm you might just not have a well filled out LinkedIn, because my experience has not been like yours at all. Most of my jobs have been from LinkedIn recruiters.
dsq 4y ago
Highly reminiscent of 2001 and 2008. From feast to famine.
jackmott 4y ago
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tomcam 4y ago

I think you should stop sending crickets. It might annoy prospective employers.

saghm 4y ago
It definitely sends the wrong message about introducing bugs rather than removing them

mortenjorck 4y ago

I was laid off in December and this has been by far the hardest search of the now four times (yes, really) I’ve been laid off in my career. The few times I’ve received anything resembling feedback in this cycle has been along the lines of “we have a large number of highly qualified candidates for this role” and with a lot of LinkedIn postings citing 200+ applicants, I believe it.

claytonjy 4y ago
Never apply through LinkedIn. It is so low-friction that the vast majority of applicants are nowhere near qualified, and hiring managers quickly learn to ignore anything that came in from LinkedIn.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
  OTOH, if you are job hunting, be sure to keep your LinkedIn profile up to date.
  - kerpotgh 4y ago
    [dead]
  - pkdpic 4y ago
    Thats helpful (but rare) to hear. Does anyone have any concrete anecdotes reinforcing the importance of keeping linkedin looking fresh? Also what matters? Artful descriptions of past positions? Activity on timeline? Upvotes on skills? Links to projects?
    - koube 4y ago
      I used to keep my linkedin fresh just to see what feelers I get. I also funnel all recruiter emails into a folder. (It's a good ego boost sometimes, not gonna lie.) Last time I was looking for a job roughly four years ago, I just opened my email recruiter folder and started responding. Responded to four emails, (three faangs plus linkedin), and now I'm at a faang. Now, there's no way to know for sure that keeping linkedin fresh actually helps. Also it was a special time where I had just finished an online masters in CS and I was really on a roll so I was taking a bunch of MOOCs afterwards as well. IMO keeping my linkedin updated with a degree in CS and mooc certificates helped. Normal day to day stuff I wouldn't update linkedin for.
    - topkai22 4y ago
      When I was reviewing resumes I would generally also look at an interesting candidate’s LinkedIn as it often provided more detail than the resume itself. For me, I was mostly looking for more detail on a candidate’s experience. Links to projects were good. I didn’t consciously look at anything else, but I’ll admit that I probably regarded more complete profiles better. I would also check out candidate’s personal sites. Decent content (even not up to date) was generally a big bonus.
    - Aromasin 4y ago
      Despite the criticism from other people in this thread, pretty much every role I've received is through LinkedIn. I probably get 4 or 5 recruiters reach out a week regarding one role or another, of which 1 of those is worth my time. That increased over time as I've built my network of recruiters in my field. In terms of prior experience, I simply state what I achieved at each role in a bullet list. Nothing fancy. My university education is a list of all the modules I took. Forget the "social media gamifying" side of it. Likes and posts don't matter if your goal is just getting offers. Keeping the profile current, and have your skills section up to date as recruiters use that to filter applicants. Block any recruiters that send you insultingly low-ball offers. Connect with those that provide value.
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  I’ve actually found LI to be good for leads for generic companies as an alternative “resume drop” - any time the company paid to distribute the job you know they’re actively recruiting for it.
- maleldil 4y ago
  What should one do instead?
  - ebiester 4y ago
    Find someone in the company that’s a second order connection and ask for a warm intro. Most companies still have a recruitment bonus for internal employees and after a short conversation most will tell you they’ll tell the internal hiring manager to look at your resume. The higher up on the career ladder you are, the better this works and more important it is if you’re not getting in via recruiter.
bugbuddy 4y ago
I have had very similar experience to this and everything said here is 100% accurate. It is extremely taxing on my mental health. Fortunately, my hobbies have really helped.
908B64B197 4y ago
> we have a large number of highly qualified candidates for this role” and with a lot of LinkedIn postings citing 200+ applicants, I believe it. That doesn't mean they get 200 highly qualified candidates ;) In my experience, before you would get 150 applicants and not a single one qualified for the job (could actually program or have any relevant experience). Now you get 3 qualified ones and 200 applicants.

satvikpendem 4y ago

I guess I don't exactly understand as my experience is quite different. I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs.

weatherlite 4y ago
> I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs Some companies (not many) are still recruiting, and there's now a massive amount of laid off people fighting for those jobs. Just because some recruited spammed you doesn't mean it would have been easy to get an offer...
- satvikpendem 4y ago
  Yeah we'll see how the market goes then.
ejb999 4y ago
>>I have recruiters beating down my LinkedIn and email literally every day for pretty decent jobs. reply A few of those jobs might even really exist! I am of the opinion that the vast majority of inquiries I get from linked in (at least 5 a week) are from scammers and brand-new or desperate recruiters just looking to collect resumes to add to their database. I pretty much ignore all linkedin inquiries at this point - it has been taken over by scammer and hucksters.
- satvikpendem 4y ago
  Hm you might just not have a well filled out LinkedIn, because my experience has not been like yours at all. Most of my jobs have been from LinkedIn recruiters.

dsq 4y ago

Highly reminiscent of 2001 and 2008. From feast to famine.

jackmott 4y ago

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