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Weird, does he say what the item was anywhere? I wonder if there are some things that are technically allowed but trigger fraud flags when newly created account

Weird, does he say what the item was anywhere? I wonder if there are some things that are technically allowed but trigger fraud flags when newly created accounts buy them with certain payment providers. Either way, terrible customer service...

version_five 4y ago
This is the most important question for me to try and understand this as well. It's a confusing piece of information to leave out, because if it's innocuous then not saying what it is is unnecessarily distracting, it it's plutonium, that might shed a different light on things
- chungy 4y ago
  Honestly a thought that didn't occur to me on first reading. Definitely, if I had been suspended and my only transaction was buying, say, a calculator. I'd probably be asking "Why are calculators disallowed?" If I was buying plutonium, I'd leave that detail omitted.
  - luckylion 4y ago
    Would you make a Twitter thread about it if you had been trying something obviously illegal though? Wouldn't you just silently make a fist and say "damnit, they've crossed my plans again"?
migf 4y ago
Yeah this reads like when SaaS companies complain about getting banned from AWS and leave out the part where people were using the software to run massage parlors or whatever.
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astura 4y ago
These "OMG I was banned for no reason" posts are ALWAYS very low on specific details because if the specific details were included it would be obvious why they were banned.
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  Although in this case it's a marketplace, so shouldn't it be the seller that's responsible for selling a prohibited item?
  - yeeeloit 4y ago
    It's not necessarily about the item in question, that's just one of several red flags, and missing pieces of information. In any sort of 'case' like this, it's very important to have all the facts, and refrain from jumping to conclusions.
- yeeeloit 4y ago
  Thank you... had to scroll a little too far to find this type of comment. People are very quick to jump on the outrage bandwagon.
- tommoor 4y ago
  It was an iPhone 2G according to the OP.
- 111111101101 4y ago
  No, it's because if the specific details were included then the posters would be doxing themselves. It's very easy to lookup sold listings on eBay.
  - astura 4y ago
    What an incredibly bizarre comment - What's sort of harm comes from someone knowing your ebay account name? Come on, now.
anigbrowl 4y ago
He does not and that's generally a huge red flag. So many times over the years I've dug into stories like this, and it turned out the person was trying to trade something very much not permitted by the ToS, and they knew it. People who are challenging the ToS themselves are generally up front about what they are trying to trade, arguing that it ought to be allowed. That said, this corporate approach of 'you are permabanned and we are not going to explain why because security' is just bullshit, essentially corporate dictatorship. Would you accept living in a country where you could be arrested, but all legal details would be withheld to prevent future crime? Of course not (I hope...though some would). The fact that this behavior has become standardized among tech companies is a major negative strike for the securocrat mindset and the prioritization of profit over anything resembling ethics. If you work for a company that has a policy like this, or uphold such policies, you are part of the problem.

version_five 4y ago

This is the most important question for me to try and understand this as well. It's a confusing piece of information to leave out, because if it's innocuous then not saying what it is is unnecessarily distracting, it it's plutonium, that might shed a different light on things

chungy 4y ago
Honestly a thought that didn't occur to me on first reading. Definitely, if I had been suspended and my only transaction was buying, say, a calculator. I'd probably be asking "Why are calculators disallowed?" If I was buying plutonium, I'd leave that detail omitted.
- luckylion 4y ago
  Would you make a Twitter thread about it if you had been trying something obviously illegal though? Wouldn't you just silently make a fist and say "damnit, they've crossed my plans again"?

migf 4y ago

Yeah this reads like when SaaS companies complain about getting banned from AWS and leave out the part where people were using the software to run massage parlors or whatever.

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astura 4y ago

These "OMG I was banned for no reason" posts are ALWAYS very low on specific details because if the specific details were included it would be obvious why they were banned.

jonny_eh 4y ago
Although in this case it's a marketplace, so shouldn't it be the seller that's responsible for selling a prohibited item?
- yeeeloit 4y ago
  It's not necessarily about the item in question, that's just one of several red flags, and missing pieces of information. In any sort of 'case' like this, it's very important to have all the facts, and refrain from jumping to conclusions.
yeeeloit 4y ago
Thank you... had to scroll a little too far to find this type of comment. People are very quick to jump on the outrage bandwagon.
tommoor 4y ago
It was an iPhone 2G according to the OP.
111111101101 4y ago
No, it's because if the specific details were included then the posters would be doxing themselves. It's very easy to lookup sold listings on eBay.
- astura 4y ago
  What an incredibly bizarre comment - What's sort of harm comes from someone knowing your ebay account name? Come on, now.

anigbrowl 4y ago

He does not and that's generally a huge red flag. So many times over the years I've dug into stories like this, and it turned out the person was trying to trade something very much not permitted by the ToS, and they knew it. People who are challenging the ToS themselves are generally up front about what they are trying to trade, arguing that it ought to be allowed. That said, this corporate approach of 'you are permabanned and we are not going to explain why because security' is just bullshit, essentially corporate dictatorship. Would you accept living in a country where you could be arrested, but all legal details would be withheld to prevent future crime? Of course not (I hope...though some would). The fact that this behavior has become standardized among tech companies is a major negative strike for the securocrat mindset and the prioritization of profit over anything resembling ethics. If you work for a company that has a policy like this, or uphold such policies, you are part of the problem.