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I'm seriously starting to think the internet will be borderline unusable in a few years. Most websites that aren't recently built are getting close to impossib

by zpeti 4y ago

I'm seriously starting to think the internet will be borderline unusable in a few years. Most websites that aren't recently built are getting close to impossible to use due to software bloat, things like forced 2FA, cookie bars, ads everywhere. Add to that an infinite supply of AI generated content, and you end up with a situation where 99% of content is just bots speaking to each other, and the rest is frankly terrible UX. Maybe this is how we get our non electronic lives back. We just overdo the machine part.

denton-scratch 4y ago
> just bots speaking to each other Ah - perhaps therein lies a solution! We all get a personal AI bot. Mine would sound like me, would be able to imitate my voice and my writing style, and would be able to distinguish bots from humans better than me. It would screen my calls and messages. "Putting you through!"
- hbfijcgu 4y ago
  But it doesn't actually put you through: you have been shadow ghosted!
- Lapsa 4y ago
  so you saying there would be a bot that would sound like you and "put someone through". I would be frankly confused if I tried to reach you
  - denton-scratch 4y ago
    Maybe you'd get used to it?
Swizec 4y ago
You can see this effect in real life. Go to a supermarket and observe the packaging. Most brands are screaming over each other with bright colors and discount badges and badges promoting this or that benefit that the same product from the brand next to to this one totally doesn’t have. The aisles are completely overwhelming and you can barely even tell what’s in the box anymore. Then you see the brand aimed at less price conscious consumers. The price is higher, but the box is a plain solid color with a nice font and just says “Rice”. Nothing else. Just rice. Or cereal. Or whatever. You see similar effects on the internet. The good stuff just doesn’t feel as shouty (look at HN). Calm is a signal of quality. Noise gets ignored.
- TuringTest 4y ago
  That's funny, because over here in Europe private labels who use simple, unenticing packaging are aimed at price conscious consumers, while premium buyers want 'sophisticated' packaging. Maybe we are at a different part of the cycle?
  - Nadya 4y ago
    I don't even think what they say holds in the US either - so must be elsewhere. In the U.S you have brand name with their often noisy labels full of marketing - and then store brand (which is often the exact same stuff as the brand name in different packaging - or stuff that was rejected from quality control of the name brand so is almost the same stuff just slightly worse by some unknown metric). I buy store brand for basically everything but a few food items where the quality is worse enough to be off-putting. Store brand labels aren't quite as plain as No Name labels but are usually a bit more bespoke or just "lower quality" like they didn't want to pay for a graphic designer so had some intern whip up a graphic for the label. I know the U.K has No Name brand which to my understanding also markets itself as the cheaper no-fuss alternative?
  - Swizec 4y ago
    I think there’s 2 sides that use simple packaging with opposite effects. I’m not enough of a designer to know how that works. You have simple but cheap looking and you have simple but clean and sophisticated looking. Look at Apple’s branding as a good example of the latter.

by zpeti 4y ago

denton-scratch 4y ago

> just bots speaking to each other Ah - perhaps therein lies a solution! We all get a personal AI bot. Mine would sound like me, would be able to imitate my voice and my writing style, and would be able to distinguish bots from humans better than me. It would screen my calls and messages. "Putting you through!"

hbfijcgu 4y ago
But it doesn't actually put you through: you have been shadow ghosted!
Lapsa 4y ago
so you saying there would be a bot that would sound like you and "put someone through". I would be frankly confused if I tried to reach you
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  Maybe you'd get used to it?

Swizec 4y ago

You can see this effect in real life. Go to a supermarket and observe the packaging. Most brands are screaming over each other with bright colors and discount badges and badges promoting this or that benefit that the same product from the brand next to to this one totally doesn’t have. The aisles are completely overwhelming and you can barely even tell what’s in the box anymore. Then you see the brand aimed at less price conscious consumers. The price is higher, but the box is a plain solid color with a nice font and just says “Rice”. Nothing else. Just rice. Or cereal. Or whatever. You see similar effects on the internet. The good stuff just doesn’t feel as shouty (look at HN). Calm is a signal of quality. Noise gets ignored.

TuringTest 4y ago
That's funny, because over here in Europe private labels who use simple, unenticing packaging are aimed at price conscious consumers, while premium buyers want 'sophisticated' packaging. Maybe we are at a different part of the cycle?
- Nadya 4y ago
  I don't even think what they say holds in the US either - so must be elsewhere. In the U.S you have brand name with their often noisy labels full of marketing - and then store brand (which is often the exact same stuff as the brand name in different packaging - or stuff that was rejected from quality control of the name brand so is almost the same stuff just slightly worse by some unknown metric). I buy store brand for basically everything but a few food items where the quality is worse enough to be off-putting. Store brand labels aren't quite as plain as No Name labels but are usually a bit more bespoke or just "lower quality" like they didn't want to pay for a graphic designer so had some intern whip up a graphic for the label. I know the U.K has No Name brand which to my understanding also markets itself as the cheaper no-fuss alternative?
- Swizec 4y ago
  I think there’s 2 sides that use simple packaging with opposite effects. I’m not enough of a designer to know how that works. You have simple but cheap looking and you have simple but clean and sophisticated looking. Look at Apple’s branding as a good example of the latter.