3 ms·

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the issue and I don't know how to explain it more clearly than I have. It does not matter how many poppy seeds there ar

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the issue and I don't know how to explain it more clearly than I have. It does not matter how many poppy seeds there are. It matters how much poppy latex remains on them. The poppy seed itself contains no opiates. The quantitative measure you're looking for is widely variable, because—again—it's not a matter of how many poppy seeds, but the level of contamination at the source. Five years ago it may have been practically impossible. Now, one poppy seed muffin in one experiment with one participant led to a codeine urinalysis result of 1300ng/mL. Others were usually lower, but without wider experimentation it's hard to say what the maximum value is or what the true error bars are. The tests are not the issue.

gus_massa 4y ago
From one of the fists results on Google: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6513924/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6513924/ It looks like 1kg (2 pounds) of [unwashed?] poppy seeds are addictive but not lethal. I'm not sure how to extrapolate that to the minimal active dose. How many poppy seeds does bread/desert have? 5%? 10%? You must eat like 10Kg (20 pounds). A normal person eats like 1kg of food per day. Also a reputable bakery will use washed-but-not-perfectly-washed poppy seeds instead of unwashed poppy seeds, so you should multiply the amount of bread x10 or x100.
- torstenvl 4y ago
  > It looks like 1kg (2 pounds) of [unwashed?] poppy seeds are addictive but not lethal. No, that isn't what the cited reference says. Poppy seeds are neither addictive nor lethal. > How many poppy seeds does bread/desert have? 5%? 10%? You must eat like 10Kg (20 pounds). A normal person eats like 1kg of food per day. Also a reputable bakery will use wash No. See above. > Also a reputable bakery will use washed-but-not-perfectly-washed poppy seeds instead of unwashed poppy seeds False. The contamination with poppy latex is not immediately apparent and not always labeled. The discovery of significant contamination—consistent with unwashed poppy seeds, in widely available commercial baked goods—is why we issued the Brady notice.

gus_massa 4y ago

From one of the fists results on Google: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6513924/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6513924/ It looks like 1kg (2 pounds) of [unwashed?] poppy seeds are addictive but not lethal. I'm not sure how to extrapolate that to the minimal active dose. How many poppy seeds does bread/desert have? 5%? 10%? You must eat like 10Kg (20 pounds). A normal person eats like 1kg of food per day. Also a reputable bakery will use washed-but-not-perfectly-washed poppy seeds instead of unwashed poppy seeds, so you should multiply the amount of bread x10 or x100.

torstenvl 4y ago
> It looks like 1kg (2 pounds) of [unwashed?] poppy seeds are addictive but not lethal. No, that isn't what the cited reference says. Poppy seeds are neither addictive nor lethal. > How many poppy seeds does bread/desert have? 5%? 10%? You must eat like 10Kg (20 pounds). A normal person eats like 1kg of food per day. Also a reputable bakery will use wash No. See above. > Also a reputable bakery will use washed-but-not-perfectly-washed poppy seeds instead of unwashed poppy seeds False. The contamination with poppy latex is not immediately apparent and not always labeled. The discovery of significant contamination—consistent with unwashed poppy seeds, in widely available commercial baked goods—is why we issued the Brady notice.