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Non-stick cookware can kill pet birds even in other rooms of a house, at normal cooking temperatures. That should have been the canary in the coal mine that the
by SAI_Peregrinus 4y ago
Non-stick cookware can kill pet birds even in other rooms of a house, at normal cooking temperatures. That should have been the canary in the coal mine that they aren't safe, but everyone except bird owners kept using non-stick cookware.
- myth_drannon 4y agoWTF, first time I read about it! I had no idea that's an issue.
- ChickenNugger 4y agoThe first thing any responsible bird owner will do is get rid of all teflon pans. Even a self cleaning oven will kill them. This has been well known in the bird community for years. It's the very first thing we'll tell a new/prospective bird owner. It's really as bad as "Cook a meal, all the birds in the house die."
- htamas 4y agoIs there any source on this? There’s an other commenter saying non-stick cookware is actually safe unless you use metal on it or use it on high temperature. I don’t know what to believe anymore.
- FooBarWidget 4y agohttps://www.ad.nl/binnenland/cynthia-verloor-vogels-door-pan-albert-heijn-mijn-kindjes-zijn-dood~aa6e47ce/ https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/cynthia-verloor-vogels-door-pan...
- SAI_Peregrinus 4y agohttps://birdvibes.com/what-kind-of-cookware-is-safe-for-birds/ https://birdvibes.com/what-kind-of-cookware-is-safe-for-bird... https://www.thespruceeats.com/is-nonstick-cookware-safe-2246164 https://www.thespruceeats.com/is-nonstick-cookware-safe-2246... https://pets.stackexchange.com/questions/20434/how-why-is-non-stick-cookware-fatal-to-birds https://pets.stackexchange.com/questions/20434/how-why-is-no... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3276392/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3276392/ https://www.liquidimageco.com/is-any-non-stick-cookware-safe-for-birds/ https://www.liquidimageco.com/is-any-non-stick-cookware-safe...
- htamas 4y agoNone of these sources are saying non-stick pans are toxic on normal cooking temperature. Actually, one of them says: Most of these cases have been due to overheated frying pans within the household. At temperatures above 280 °C, PTFE-coated surfaces begin to emit degradation products in the form of particulates and gas.5,9 Subsequent inhalation of these by-products by birds can result in various clinical signs, including open-beak breathing, chirping, incoordination, lateral recumbency, convulsions, and death. So I assume it's still ok to use at normal cooking temperatures.
- zeroonetwothree 4y agoI mean chocolate kills various pets too but that doesn’t mean it’s bad for humans.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoIt's the 'sugar-free' chocolates with xylitol that are incredibly poisonous to dogs. But harmless to humans, supposedly due to a quirk of biology.
- cwkoss 4y agoAll chocolate contains PEA which is toxic to dogs proportional to % cocoa. Xylitol is an additional possible risk.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoI never implied regular chocolates were harmless to dogs?
- nanidin 4y agoAnecdata, but I've owned a pet cockatiel for just over 20 years. He lives in a cage about 10-15 feet from the kitchen where we have never ceased using nonstick cookware. We're just careful not to let pans overheat, and careful to take the bird to another room when we are using a new pan for the first time.