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It’s disappointing how many comments here focus on the trees and not the forest. Regardless of the intent of the GitHub rule, this is supposed to drive interest

It’s disappointing how many comments here focus on the trees and not the forest. Regardless of the intent of the GitHub rule, this is supposed to drive interest in web development among young people, and instead it’s an exercise in bureaucracy and semantics.

LanceH 4y ago
The rule is ambiguous and can be read two ways. Tools which pull code from places like ...github...are not allowed. # Github as a tool doesn't generate code. Tool like ...github... which generate code are not allowed. # Github is certainly a repository from which code templates are pulled. Love the "results are final". No flexibility from people running things is a great quality to prepare youth for the real world of navigating customer service. Also the teacher telling them to just wait when they're the one who judged it.
- teaearlgraycold 4y ago
  Results are final means they’re too insecure to admit fallibility
  - eternalban 4y ago
    Is it a given they would have won? Who were the winners and what did their work look like? Even with the best of intentions they would have to (a) re-register the entry, (b) redo the competition or review against current winner. And then possibly (maybe!) judge it to be superior to the current winner and then open that can of worm, or not.
    - btschaegg 4y ago
      Well, with a quantum of class, they could 1) acknowledge that their judgement was erroneous, 2) publish that as a correction, listing the project, ideally with a small apology and at least some details on how the entry would have been judged if not for the GitHub link and 3) create a separate prize for "projects our judges learned valuable lessons from". As a good example of a similar precedent, look at this entry from 1994: https://web.archive.org/web/20200214094614/http://www0.us.ioccc.org/1994/smr.hint https://web.archive.org/web/20200214094614/http://www0.us.io...
      - eternalban 4y ago
        Yes, that would have been the classy move.
- ruszki 4y ago
  It’s an interesting aspect that in my professional career definitely nothing is final. But customer service can really be inflexible, even when there is no risk, or it would be even better for the company.

LanceH 4y ago

The rule is ambiguous and can be read two ways. Tools which pull code from places like ...github...are not allowed. # Github as a tool doesn't generate code. Tool like ...github... which generate code are not allowed. # Github is certainly a repository from which code templates are pulled. Love the "results are final". No flexibility from people running things is a great quality to prepare youth for the real world of navigating customer service. Also the teacher telling them to just wait when they're the one who judged it.

teaearlgraycold 4y ago
Results are final means they’re too insecure to admit fallibility
- eternalban 4y ago
  Is it a given they would have won? Who were the winners and what did their work look like? Even with the best of intentions they would have to (a) re-register the entry, (b) redo the competition or review against current winner. And then possibly (maybe!) judge it to be superior to the current winner and then open that can of worm, or not.
  - btschaegg 4y ago
    Well, with a quantum of class, they could 1) acknowledge that their judgement was erroneous, 2) publish that as a correction, listing the project, ideally with a small apology and at least some details on how the entry would have been judged if not for the GitHub link and 3) create a separate prize for "projects our judges learned valuable lessons from". As a good example of a similar precedent, look at this entry from 1994: https://web.archive.org/web/20200214094614/http://www0.us.ioccc.org/1994/smr.hint https://web.archive.org/web/20200214094614/http://www0.us.io...
    - eternalban 4y ago
      Yes, that would have been the classy move.
ruszki 4y ago
It’s an interesting aspect that in my professional career definitely nothing is final. But customer service can really be inflexible, even when there is no risk, or it would be even better for the company.